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hello everyone this is Martin Willis and

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I want to apologize the internet went

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beginning of this show with Jim Marrs so

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we did record just a few minutes ago and

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you get a total unedited version as well

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as the news from the other night is

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recorded with Alejandro Rojas so again I

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apologize for the delay but here it is

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and before I forget next week we have

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Katherine Martin and Stan Freeman is

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going to be on the show here and it hits

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me oh my gosh this is that triangle you

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know there's explanation for everything

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that occurred in the Rendlesham forest

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incident it doesn't involve aliens at

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all it was completely silent it comes

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right over our head it's so a classic

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flying-saucer really standing in the

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clearing he turned over to my father and

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held his hand and he looked in his eyes

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Standard Time as well Alejandra what's

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going on what's going on is UFOs are

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going on but yeah we had a little

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technical difficulty when we tried to

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connect earlier and we did and you said

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hey there's a lot of stories a lot of

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goods yeah so leather is that's a good

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stuff and you said oh the government

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took us down so they did hopefully they

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let us stay connected well we'll try to

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get through this one yeah

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and that's your tax money well-spent

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that they're able we're talking to

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they're on the ball yeah they're you

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know they're all over the place yeah

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it's impressive all you have to do is

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you say the word UFO it goes across the

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NSA computer and that's it you're down

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boom yeah they're like gotcha sucka

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okay well cool yeah lots of UFO news

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first of all the the Podesta email

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WikiLeaks you know a lot of buzz about

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that and really nothing too

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extraordinary to add to that to those

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stories that I haven't already covered

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but you can go to open mindset TV and I

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have updated my stories on that too Tom

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the long string and the other one but

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you'll see that right on the front page

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so so the only interesting thing is

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there's been a couple more emails Tom

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DeLonge talking about a meeting with

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Steven Spielberg and some other people

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in the media and then on the Edgar

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Mitchell side just what we had already

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talked about more emails about how

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Podesta really was trying to set up a

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meeting with Mitchell and also Rebecca

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Hardcastle who is someone who worked

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with Mitchell who is trying to help with

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that she wrote a blog about you know how

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that all happened and there's a link

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there too so nothing totally new there

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but there are some interesting UFO

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sighting

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that we posted recently all right I

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think yeah good stuff so this is the

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first one I want to talk about is

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actually happen a few years ago this is

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at Fort Benning in Georgia and this is a

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fun story so it happened in July 10th

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2005 where this guy said him and his

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platoon were out training and some of

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the guys came back and said we saw a UFO

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there's this UFO following us and

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watching us it was really weird it was

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just his silver orb up in the sky and

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the guy said yeah right you're full of

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it he goes out the next day and sure

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enough there's this silver metallic orb

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up there he said it buzzed very loudly

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but there was no holes or openings it

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was just a solid orb that was up about

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50 feet in the air everybody saw it it

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was a big deal and after that they

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didn't see it again so he posted it and

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he was like you know I've been grappling

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with this whole thing the whole time was

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it a drone he's like I think it was some

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sort of drone the government was

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experimenting with and you know using it

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on us to watch us but he's like you know

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I've never seen any technology like this

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since so I don't know so yeah that's a

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really weird one I could see that the

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government could have drones all the way

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back in 2005 but for it to be a total

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solid mass without any you know cameras

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or anything like that or that's the

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weird part yeah the weird part is this

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it seemed like a solid metallic object

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and that is really weird and of course

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if it came out it is military that that

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would actually probably explain a ton of

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different UFO sightings so yeah that

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that's a really odd one that's kind of a

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cool one another one is from years ago

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this actually happened in 94 or 95 but

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it's kind of cool so Phillip mantel he's

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a guy in the UK by the way I should

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mention that last one was a MUFON case

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that was written by Roger Marsh this one

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is is provided from Phillip mantel so he

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heard from there's a wink

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and who had a sighting and I think we

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talked about that last time well because

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of he posted that story another guy this

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guy is a flight lieutenant sent him a

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story from the Royal Air Force of his

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sighting report so this guy had his

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sighting in 94 95 he can't remember it

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was Christmas time but essentially he

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was art at the Royal Air Force Base

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Linehan in Wiltshire when they were

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catching this weird object on radar

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radar Reiter Reiter and it was this kind

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of blob this mass that moved around and

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then boom exploded and flew off in

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several directions and sure enough one

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of the guards called and they were

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really freaked out and said hey I saw

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this bright white light that exploded

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and went in all directions so this light

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lieutenant actually reported it and he

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said that you know when he reported it

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they said well we usually don't pay

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attention to goofy kind of UFO sightings

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we think they're goofy but he's like

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what but you're a lieutenant so you're

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an officer and so we take these much

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more seriously and they took down the

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report and that was about it

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but yeah he wrote Phillip mantle about

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this Philip mantle then actually did do

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some foil work and he found he got some

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information he got the original sighting

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report and so we've posted that in the

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story as well so Phillip mantle runs the

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flying disc press out of the UK really

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cool guy and he contributes some stories

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to us sometimes another international

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contributor we have is Andres Muller and

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he's actually from Germany so he was

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like many others upset that you might

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have heard this the Ministry of Defence

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so we've talked about this how it was

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actually John burrows who was asking

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them about UFO FILES and they admitted

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oops we do have these 18 UFO files that

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we forgot to send out with the rest

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because you know for years they were

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putting out batches of UFO sub files and

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then they finished and they said that's

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it we gave you guys all our

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UFO FILES but then John Burroughs found

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out that hey there's more

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so they said they're going to release

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these quickly or or but they keep

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delaying delaying delaying delaying they

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said they were going to get it out in

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2016 early then they said in the summer

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all of these times have passed the

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latest they've done is pushed it all the

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way back now to early 2017 so it's just

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very odd they keep delaying these files

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so Andres the open minds contributor he

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wrote to them and said hey what's going

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on why did these keep getting delayed

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and it's kind of concerning what he

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found they said that first they have to

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release it from the Ministry of Defense

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to the National Archives they look it

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over and they prepare and then they

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release it but when they looked at them

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they found that there's more information

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in there that should have been not

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released so they've got to redact some

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of the information and so they have to

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reprocess it and that's why it's delayed

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oh wow yeah they say they sincerely

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apologize but yeah it's kind of

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concerning that you know what the heck's

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going on why do they have to keep

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re-examining these files I mean once in

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them so Andres kind of provided at the

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text of the letter he received from the

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Ministry of Defense and wrote that up on

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open mind TV so you could see that and

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those updates from the weekiy WikiLeaks

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wikki wikki wikki wikki leaks at open

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minds TV did you say that it was it was

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at 18 files as I what you said go erect

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it just seems to redact 18 files of who

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was just personal information wouldn't

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take that long but I don't know how

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these yeah work well it's weird and

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Andres provided a list of exemptions

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from the British Freedom of Information

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Act so that's what they're referencing

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so somehow in this list of exemptions

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some of the information in those files

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meet those exemptions and somehow that

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was

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overlooks so people can look through

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those exemptions to see what sort of

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things they could have been but it's

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just kind of a shart in a dark a guess

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as to what caused those delays at this

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point so yeah unfortunately more and

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more delays you know there has been

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someone in the House of Lords who

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actually brought this up a

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representative the House of Lords is

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weird in Britain essentially it's rich

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people who the Queen makes a lord and

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then they get their own branch of

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government but it's a bit chaotic

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there's tons of them and so it's it's

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kind of a branch that's more for show

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but they do have more access to the

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government they can ask questions such

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as one did he said why are these files

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getting delayed and they just kind of

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blew him off and said sorry we're

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working on it type of thing but so there

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is there are people on the other side of

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the pond looking at all of this but and

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there's anticipation all over the place

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but what's in those files hopefully

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we'll find out unless somehow they

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accidentally lose them which our

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government is prone to do hmm yes it

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does happen

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well nothing for this evening sir that

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is it for this evening all right we'll

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talk to you next week I wonder all right

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talk to you later buddy

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all right all right everyone so hang in

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there for the quick music break we'll be

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you

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Jim welcome to the show well Martin it's

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a good pleasure to be with you and sorry

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about the other night the internet went

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down all night long and took a couple of

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days to get it fixed and actually went

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down just before the show earlier today

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before the recording but this is

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Saturday and I do apologize to the live

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listeners we just couldn't I couldn't

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restore the Internet the other night but

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I also want to thank you Jim for the

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willingness to come back here on a

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Saturday and and record a show I really

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almost like it's quite all right and I

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totally understand the other day I was

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supposed to be doing something on the

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computer and I I guess it was a skype

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thing or whatever and then my computer

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good old Windows 10 it just kicked the

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red and said we're updating don't don't

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change anything and don't turn off your

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computer and then went all the way

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through the time I supposed to be on the

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interview oh you know Martin we're

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living in a time now when we don't run

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the computers they run us yeah Alejandro

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Rojas were I always a lot of times I

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rule pre-record news with him and we

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were doing that the other day and all of

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a sudden his skype started updating we

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had to postpone yeah we have no control

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you're right then that something's not

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right about that yeah seems to human

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should always be in control yeah yeah

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well you know what uh Elon Musk says

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about AI it's going to be the death of

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us all yep yeah and it may very well be

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you know and this goes all the way back

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I remember reading an early day science

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fiction story way back there somewhere

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where they finally put together there

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was the world computer man it was you

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know is all accusers and we're all

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locked together and they said okay let's

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put the ultimate question to it said

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okay world computer said we want peace

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bring peace to this world so to make a

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long story short the computer goes to

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continue to continue to get okay let's

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say Wars

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problem Wars cause about people okay we

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got to get rid of the people so they

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start eliminating the human race so then

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we'd have peace on this planet yeah well

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you know actually I know I'm starting

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off way off topic here but actually you

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know in a conversation I had with

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someone that's pretty involved in and

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like searching about future and AI said

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that a you know eventually it could just

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come to the point where someone would

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give a command okay your your job is to

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destroy all humans and whatever it takes

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and it would start replicating machines

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and self-replicating or whatever you

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know I mean there could be a lot hours

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about that sounds like Skynet

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yeah right yeah so yeah it could be

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hopefully we won't you know we'll have

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some control over artificial

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intelligence before we get to that point

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there's freaking fail-safes built in I

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would imagine but anyway Jim I know like

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95% of the people out there know who you

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are and actually I've had requests to

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have you on the show almost since day

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one in four years so so glad you're

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finally on but for the person that

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somewhere on the planet that's listening

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to the show that may not be familiar

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with who Jim Marrs is can you go into

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your background and I know I heard you

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say at one point that you liked unusual

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things or something like that I'm kind

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of gravitated to that yeah now basically

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I'm just an old Texas newspaper reporter

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okay I got a degree in journalism back

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in the days of the old republic when we

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actually were taught real journalism you

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know like look beyond the official

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pronouncements and try to find out the

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truth and I don't see that happening

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much anymore then of course I was an

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avid reader since I was a child and

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particularly I finally graduate

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gravitated into science fiction and

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you're talking about how things come

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about I was just thinking that you know

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science fiction is prophesied AC Welles

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prophesied

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automatic doors arthur c-- clark

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prophesied voice control computers

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submarines of course were first

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described by jules verne and then l ron

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hubbard he wants and bruce writing about

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hand-held electronic devices that where

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you can read you can actually read books

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on them so you know hey

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they've always been ahead of their time

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and so in my newspaper career i attended

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to gravitate towards the weird stories

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the ones that nobody could quite explain

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other other reporters and other editors

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they tend to shy away from those stories

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you know because it doesn't have a

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clear-cut ending in a clear-cut

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resolution so it's like well let's just

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leave that one alone but that's the ones

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always like so anyway I never left

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journalism but I have to say that

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journalism left me and so as a result in

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the last several years I've been putting

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out information in the form of books and

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I have five New York Times bestsellers

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and in a wide variety of things Martin

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you know we have become a very

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specialized society you know the lawyers

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know law the bankers know banking and

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the doctors know doctoring young you

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know but very seldom do they reach over

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and learn much anywhere else and I think

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this is a detriment to our society if

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you'll think back to the great

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philosophers of history Plato Socrates

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people like that

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where are our philosophers today you

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know anybody do you know anybody it's

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making a living being a philosopher no

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I've met some but usually they out on

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the street begging for spare change so

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what we really need so I am kind of a

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generalist I know a lot about a little

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bit a lot of things and not not a whole

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lot about anything and hips few things

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because I was here at the timing because

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I studied it and worked very closely

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with some of the earliest of the

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researchers in the bells Fort Worth area

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I do know a lot about the Kennedy

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assassination and that was reflected in

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my 1980s

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a cross fire of the plot to kill Kennedy

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it has now been released in 2013 an

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updated version and has gotten a very

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very warm reception because it's really

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everything you need to know about the

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Kennedy assassination is just all there

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you can hear it from the witnesses from

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the technical reports from the police

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reports from the federal investigations

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it's all there

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and that led of course to the question

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of well then wait a minute what's the

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next big secret government cover-up and

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almost everybody said we won't know

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about UFOs so I said okay I kind of do

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too so I begin to dig in investigate

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UFOs and that led to the location of my

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book alien agenda which is a overview of

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the UFO alien situation going all the

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way back to the ancient astronauts and

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coming forward to the cabin mutilations

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in the crop circles and the so-called

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abductions and etc etc and then of

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course that led to we'll know wait a

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minute you know how come they're not

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interacting more openly with earth and

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then I think the answer came back I said

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well there's nobody that speaks for

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Earth you know and until we have

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somebody who can speak for the earth you

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know what I don't think we're going to

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have open contact with our intergalactic

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neighbors and so then that led to

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question well then who does be further

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who's trying to speak for Earth and that

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led to rule by secrecy the secret

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societies that permeate our societies

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and operate in the dark and with various

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agendas and objectives and I think we

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really need to know about that and then

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that led to the rise of the Fourth Reich

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and the fact that yes we beat the

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Germans in World War two but we didn't

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defeat the Nazis they weren't even at

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the surrender table they we just force

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him to move and a lot of them thousands

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of them came to the United States and

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was rolled into our military industrial

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complex under the GS of fighting the

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Russians and providing us with the

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modern technology and of course the

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problem was is that not only did we get

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their technology we got their four

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see and that's why today we are seeing

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the rise of the fourth reich in the

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united states with just running parallel

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to what happened to the Germans in the

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30s they had the Reichstag fire we had

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9/11 they had the enabling act we had

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the Patriot Act they had the

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consolidated the police horses into the

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Gestapo we consolidated them into

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Homeland Security I mean we're just

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following right down the road and nobody

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seems to know because nobody knows their

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history yes to say history repeats

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itself when you're trying to hide I've

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got a I've got a cartoons in here's my

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favorite it says yeah those who didn't

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do not learn from history are doomed to

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repeat it

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you knows who did those who do study

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history are doomed to stand by

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helplessly while everybody else repeats

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it I've never heard that part of this

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okay really yeah but it's so true is so

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true you may know what's going on but

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nobody else does it what the heck yeah

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funny you mention this thing about

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specializing going back to that because

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up that I in my my real career is a fine

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arts and antique appraiser and I are

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very busy and because I'm what's I'm a

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generalist that's my title there's

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everyone now is specialists out there

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you know when it comes to fine arts or

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whatever it is they're all specialists

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and there's very few generalists so I'm

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busy all the time because of that good

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yeah well and to say that's what gives

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you such cachet when you're doing your

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business because you know if somebody's

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real specialize and they get some and

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don't fit into they're known you know a

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category within they're the kind of a

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loss but you you know enough about a lot

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of variety things you can say well you

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know I think it's over and dear no yes

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great well you know in reading all this

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science fiction stuff that's another

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thing I wanted to bring up l ron Hubbard

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you know everybody thinks well ron

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Hubbard and Scientology really

543
00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:27,870
well okay number one I'm not a

544
00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:30,710
Scientologist and Brun never will be and

545
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:34,200
but I was reading l ron Hubbard way back

546
00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:39,330
in the 50s and 60s 70s because he at the

547
00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:40,740
time people like a lot of people don't

548
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:43,740
know this but he was one of the top tier

549
00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:46,320
science fiction authors right right

550
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:48,540
Yeah right along with Ray Bradbury and

551
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:52,770
author C Clark and you know people like

552
00:24:56,570 --> 00:24:53,330
that

553
00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:56,580
and so I remember reading Battlefield

554
00:25:01,340 --> 00:24:58,260
Earth and I thought what a cool book it

555
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:01,350
was it was really really interesting

556
00:25:07,420 --> 00:25:03,410
because it just goes all over the place

557
00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:07,430
but the key thing is is that unlike the

558
00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:10,230
unlike what we've seen here in recent

559
00:25:15,950 --> 00:25:13,710
years the modern audiences who've gone

560
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:15,960
to the show see they've been they've all

561
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:18,510
been seen these murders and alien

562
00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:21,090
invasions as such as the old classics

563
00:25:26,420 --> 00:25:23,430
earth vs. the flying saucer or the blob

564
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:26,430
or invaders from Mars or even the more

565
00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:28,890
recent independence day the puppet

566
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:31,350
masters Cowboys vs. aliens

567
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:34,110
well okay Hubbard had a whole different

568
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:35,490
tact I just thought it was so cool

569
00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:38,970
because in Battlefield Earth he they

570
00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:40,620
don't just come here and land and blow

571
00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:41,940
up everything and try to attack

572
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:45,270
everybody no it's just a business deals

573
00:25:49,850 --> 00:25:47,490
just all business the intergalactic

574
00:25:52,910 --> 00:25:49,860
bankers loan money to the intergalactic

575
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:52,920
Mining Corporation who sends some of

576
00:25:56,510 --> 00:25:54,840
their mining people here to earth to

577
00:25:59,300 --> 00:25:56,520
strip-mine the resources of the earth

578
00:26:01,640 --> 00:25:59,310
and oh well of course there's these

579
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:01,650
pesky humans that are kind of in the way

580
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:04,110
so they send a security force under

581
00:26:12,770 --> 00:26:08,250
these big giant hairy space guys in the

582
00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:12,780
call cyclos and after a while the book

583
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:15,420
takes place in the year 3000 4000 years

584
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:17,610
they've occupied the earth and most

585
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:19,380
humans are scattered into small

586
00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:22,050
primitive tribes and they basically have

587
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:23,790
forgotten that they or have been

588
00:26:33,020 --> 00:26:26,490
conquered by this alien race and it

589
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:33,030
takes the hero of the book John good boy

590
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:37,110
Tyler to realize that what's going on

591
00:26:41,330 --> 00:26:39,510
because he actually gets taken to the

592
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:41,340
cyclos headquarters where they're going

593
00:26:46,670 --> 00:26:44,580
to use him as a slave house servant and

594
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:46,680
he begins to realize what's going on and

595
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:49,250
from then on is how to mount a

596
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:53,760
counter-attack how to gain back control

597
00:26:58,820 --> 00:26:56,250
of the earth which is might someday

598
00:27:01,490 --> 00:26:58,830
prove a pretty useful template but

599
00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:01,500
anyway I was great and now I see that

600
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:05,340
they have released the 21st edition of

601
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,170
Battlefield Earth and you can go to

602
00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:09,360
Battlefield Earth comm and you can check

603
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:11,700
it all out but the thing that gets me

604
00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:13,740
Martin is that in addition to the book

605
00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:16,200
which I found very interesting now they

606
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:20,220
made a movie about the year 2000 it kind

607
00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:22,650
of got panned and I can understand why

608
00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:26,100
they the book is just so wide sweeping

609
00:27:29,780 --> 00:27:27,720
and then they tried to scrunch it into

610
00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:29,790
this film and it just didn't quite work

611
00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:33,480
so it was one of these cases where the

612
00:27:37,370 --> 00:27:35,580
movie didn't really follow the book and

613
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:37,380
I think that was their problem but

614
00:27:41,030 --> 00:27:39,570
anyway now they're back with the book

615
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:41,040
back out and I think you can get the

616
00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:42,570
whole book for pretty cheap right now -

617
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:45,030
I'm not sure unless we go to Battlefield

618
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:47,010
Earth calm or go to Amazon I'm sure you

619
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:48,810
can find it but we're wouldn tellyou was

620
00:27:57,170 --> 00:27:54,450
there also issuing a audio book of these

621
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:57,180
of Battlefield Earth and this thing is

622
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,320
absolutely amazing

623
00:28:03,020 --> 00:28:00,960
they've got 68 voice character actors

624
00:28:05,570 --> 00:28:03,030
portraying about a hundred and ninety

625
00:28:07,670 --> 00:28:05,580
something characters with a hundred

626
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:07,680
fifty thousand sound effects thrown in

627
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,050
and a full and a full blown musical

628
00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:12,480
score written just for this for this

629
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:15,870
purpose for this hood I know why so it's

630
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:17,580
like I've heard a little bit of it and

631
00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:19,050
I'll tell you if you're going on a long

632
00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:21,150
vacation or if you have a really long

633
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,430
commute er whatever this would be the

634
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:24,960
thing to do man because it's like a

635
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:27,360
movie for the mind you know keep down

636
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:29,370
the road but endless the visions you'll

637
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:31,290
have the whole you'll have it all right

638
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:32,910
there in front of you it's really cool

639
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:35,130
now isn't that a real lawn I mean that's

640
00:28:40,850 --> 00:28:38,100
a big book isn't it oh yeah it's real

641
00:28:45,530 --> 00:28:40,860
thick in fact the audio book is like 47

642
00:28:48,410 --> 00:28:45,540
hours probably this whoa that's a whole

643
00:28:49,580 --> 00:28:48,420
workweek and then some about that that's

644
00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:49,590
true that's true

645
00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:53,190
well amazing but it but it it's hour

646
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,260
he made big waves and a lot of people

647
00:28:59,570 --> 00:28:57,360
have really recommended it and again I

648
00:29:03,050 --> 00:28:59,580
think he'd go to Battlefield Earth comm

649
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:03,060
and probably listen to some of the the

650
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:07,410
audio book so I would say give it a shot

651
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:10,530
because it's really interesting but and

652
00:29:14,090 --> 00:29:12,330
it's kind of timely too because right

653
00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:14,100
now as you will know we just had the

654
00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:18,150
SpaceX Falcon 9 blow up and we've had

655
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,550
some other space disasters and it almost

656
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:22,200
seems like somebody doesn't want us

657
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:24,210
getting off this planet mmm

658
00:29:29,420 --> 00:29:26,210
and of course we've been to the moon

659
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,430
supposably six times and yet what that

660
00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:31,440
was 30 years ago we're never going back

661
00:29:36,770 --> 00:29:33,320
I know that is that's all that's been

662
00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:36,780
yeah yeah now one really one of the

663
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:38,280
things that you know comes to mind we

664
00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:40,410
would talk about this business

665
00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:42,150
proposition and then strip-mining

666
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:45,870
earth and all that I do are we unique as

667
00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:48,450
a planet that we would have resources

668
00:29:54,980 --> 00:29:53,070
that I mean I don't even know this I'm

669
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:54,990
not sure anybody does I get what you're

670
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:56,010
getting at it yeah

671
00:30:01,460 --> 00:29:58,770
I do know this that I'm old enough to

672
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:01,470
remember before we went to the moon the

673
00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:03,270
idea was we were going to go the moon

674
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:04,950
we're going to set up a base we were

675
00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:06,960
going to colonize the moon we were going

676
00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:10,140
to mine the moon for its mineral

677
00:30:14,990 --> 00:30:12,150
resources and that they would pay for

678
00:30:17,030 --> 00:30:15,000
the space program so wait a minute what

679
00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:17,040
happened to that and I could that could

680
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:18,990
be a reality because of the hydrogen

681
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:21,360
three I think it is I can't remember if

682
00:30:26,810 --> 00:30:24,110
that's yeah accurate but it's a very

683
00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:26,820
very and now well now we're finding that

684
00:30:31,070 --> 00:30:28,980
there's all this water frozen water

685
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:31,080
yeah underneath the surface of some of

686
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:33,510
Jupiter's moons you know where there's

687
00:30:37,330 --> 00:30:35,130
no telling what's out there but we just

688
00:30:39,740 --> 00:30:37,340
don't seem to be much interesting more

689
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:39,750
when I was a young man the fifties in

690
00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:41,970
the 60s man going to space was the deal

691
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:43,950
that was the bomb you know that's what

692
00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:45,210
we're going to do we're going to spread

693
00:30:49,670 --> 00:30:47,340
out we're going to have more room for

694
00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:49,680
everybody you know everybody and have

695
00:30:54,980 --> 00:30:51,990
their own little community and blah blah

696
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:54,990
blah you know and now that happened and

697
00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:57,840
I personally suspect that we're being

698
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:58,860
quarantined

699
00:31:03,890 --> 00:31:01,440
I think somebody up there says listen

700
00:31:07,010 --> 00:31:03,900
you guys are okay but you just stick to

701
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:07,020
yourself with your murderous hatred ways

702
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:09,810
and killing machines and you're not

703
00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:11,010
going to be allowed to bring that out

704
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,470
the space so as soon as you guys can

705
00:31:16,670 --> 00:31:15,360
learn to get along together then you can

706
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:16,680
come out here and join the rest of you

707
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:20,640
neighbors yeah it is kind of it is kind

708
00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:24,000
of embarrassing to represent a species

709
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,190
that is so violent and you know yeah and

710
00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:31,200
I and I don't understand it man all we

711
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:33,150
want is peace you know now if you're

712
00:31:39,770 --> 00:31:38,250
more peace will kill you but I don't

713
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:39,780
know what again all of us we just want

714
00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:43,980
peace right yeah I mean who knows maybe

715
00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:46,200
other societies pieces and even a word

716
00:31:52,910 --> 00:31:50,580
because you know in different life on

717
00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:52,920
elsewhere because they don't have the

718
00:31:58,730 --> 00:31:55,860
other side of it yeah you know you know

719
00:32:00,920 --> 00:31:58,740
have you ever thought about this one of

720
00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:00,930
the reasons the United States has so

721
00:32:06,050 --> 00:32:02,940
quickly grown into one of the most

722
00:32:08,420 --> 00:32:06,060
prosperous and and technologically

723
00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:08,430
advanced nations on the world is because

724
00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:12,390
from the get-go we have been a mongrel

725
00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:15,060
society where we're a mixture we got a

726
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:17,190
little bit everybody we got Africans we

727
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:19,980
got Germans we got French we had

728
00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:22,050
everybody came over here the English

729
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:24,120
came over here you know the Spanish came

730
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:27,090
over here and we are just a polyglot

731
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:30,240
race of people and so maybe we've picked

732
00:32:34,850 --> 00:32:32,490
up some of the worst hash tributes of

733
00:32:37,550 --> 00:32:34,860
some but for certain we've picked up the

734
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:37,560
best attributes of many okay and that's

735
00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:39,240
what made the United States so

736
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:42,870
prosperous well what if the earth is the

737
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:45,690
same way what if on other worlds they

738
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:48,090
have these homogeneous races that you

739
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:49,710
know they all grow together maybe even

740
00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:51,810
have the hive mind you know and they can

741
00:32:56,270 --> 00:32:54,390
all tell a telepath with each other they

742
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:56,280
can know what each other's thinking they

743
00:32:59,810 --> 00:32:57,600
know what's going on which means you

744
00:33:02,420 --> 00:32:59,820
can't lie to anybody you know and maybe

745
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:02,430
maybe they just come a different path

746
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:04,410
than earth which has been seeded with

747
00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:06,810
several different races and we're a

748
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:09,870
blend of all of those and again we have

749
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:12,240
some of the best attributes and possibly

750
00:33:17,810 --> 00:33:15,600
some of the worst attributes but the but

751
00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:17,820
the fact that we're just a big mixture

752
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:19,630
makes us up

753
00:33:25,150 --> 00:33:22,850
kind of a wonderment to the other people

754
00:33:28,540 --> 00:33:25,160
out the galaxy they look at us and go

755
00:33:31,570 --> 00:33:28,550
whoa were these folks come from now I

756
00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:31,580
mentioned this on my show of probably

757
00:33:35,410 --> 00:33:33,020
about three or four times over the last

758
00:33:37,930 --> 00:33:35,420
four years so longtime listeners have

759
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:37,940
heard me say it before but years ago I

760
00:33:43,270 --> 00:33:41,120
had an insurance broker this is before I

761
00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:43,280
really got into the topic of UFOs or

762
00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:43,790
anything

763
00:33:48,730 --> 00:33:46,670
I had an insurance broker a life

764
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:48,740
insurance and we were chatting one night

765
00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:51,650
and he said that he used to be part of a

766
00:33:58,590 --> 00:33:54,830
special Air Force division during the

767
00:34:03,460 --> 00:33:58,600
Vietnam War that used to used to

768
00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:03,470
research of the UFOs in Vietnam and so I

769
00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:06,230
said really a set of a of a reel and he

770
00:34:11,409 --> 00:34:08,270
says yeah UFOs are definitely real and

771
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:11,419
then I mentioned to him that I had in

772
00:34:16,870 --> 00:34:14,960
high school I had written an essay for

773
00:34:20,020 --> 00:34:16,880
English it was like one of the only a

774
00:34:22,419 --> 00:34:20,030
Zyra got in English and it was that we

775
00:34:26,290 --> 00:34:22,429
were basically seated all the races were

776
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:26,300
seated and as an experiment and I can't

777
00:34:30,730 --> 00:34:27,679
really remember but that was kind of the

778
00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:30,740
gist of it in anyway he said well that's

779
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:33,260
not really far off and he says of the

780
00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:35,210
government's theory is that we're a

781
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,940
petri dish those are is it exact words

782
00:34:41,770 --> 00:34:39,919
yeah exactly

783
00:34:44,590 --> 00:34:41,780
so they're just they're just stirring

784
00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:44,600
the dish and what they come up with yeah

785
00:34:48,490 --> 00:34:46,460
and I don't know if that's you know I

786
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:48,500
don't know if he was biessing me I have

787
00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:51,919
no idea but I stuck to me

788
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:53,929
I don't think so Martin and the reason I

789
00:34:58,030 --> 00:34:55,310
say this is because I've heard from

790
00:35:00,910 --> 00:34:58,040
other people that were in Vietnam and I

791
00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:00,920
also talked about a UFO study that was

792
00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:03,380
going on there and I fact I particularly

793
00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:05,600
remember talking with one guy who who

794
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:07,430
showed up there fresh from the States

795
00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:10,040
and they put him into the big air base

796
00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:15,230
whatever that was oh well anyway and he

797
00:35:19,420 --> 00:35:17,750
was a radar operator so he put him down

798
00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:19,430
and he's heading down friends radar

799
00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:20,990
thing you know pretty soon he's calling

800
00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:23,000
the supervisor over he's going what's

801
00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:24,680
all that stuff and he says oh that's the

802
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:30,230
UFOs don't worry about them so yeah they

803
00:35:34,789 --> 00:35:32,099
they had daily

804
00:35:40,479 --> 00:35:34,799
experience with UFOs now have you

805
00:35:48,529 --> 00:35:44,900
yes and no mostly no I have seen some

806
00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:48,539
strange acting lights in the sky but I'm

807
00:35:52,249 --> 00:35:50,940
I'm a good enough reporter and objective

808
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:52,259
enough reporter that I'm not going to

809
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,970
try to tell you that it's a spaceship

810
00:35:58,009 --> 00:35:55,680
full of a million people because I just

811
00:35:59,960 --> 00:35:58,019
simply don't know that and as far as

812
00:36:04,969 --> 00:35:59,970
actually seeing something up close that

813
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:04,979
I definitely know is is not from Earth

814
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:07,410
I'd have to say no I really haven't

815
00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:10,170
but the difference here is again it's

816
00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:12,420
back with the generalization thing is

817
00:36:17,059 --> 00:36:14,940
that in my and of course of my fifty

818
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:17,069
years in journalism I've talked to too

819
00:36:21,769 --> 00:36:19,710
many people police officers pilots both

820
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:21,779
commercial military air traffic

821
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:25,170
controllers military officers you know

822
00:36:29,509 --> 00:36:27,660
and after a while you finally go you

823
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:29,519
know all these people and they tell you

824
00:36:33,049 --> 00:36:31,529
these incredible stories and after a

825
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:33,059
while you good day all these people

826
00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:35,339
cannot be lying you know and and their

827
00:36:40,609 --> 00:36:37,950
stories are consistent and they match in

828
00:36:43,579 --> 00:36:40,619
many places so I think what we're

829
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:43,589
hearing is the truth and I think in fact

830
00:36:47,479 --> 00:36:45,210
people now ask me do you believe in

831
00:36:49,609 --> 00:36:47,489
aliens and i say no i don't i know i

832
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:49,619
know there's aliens and another here

833
00:36:53,870 --> 00:36:51,450
because i've talked to too many people

834
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:53,880
have too many stories even if half of

835
00:37:00,799 --> 00:36:57,210
them were somehow another pathological

836
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,809
or just crazy or just making stuff up or

837
00:37:04,339 --> 00:37:02,400
just trying to make a name for

838
00:37:07,219 --> 00:37:04,349
themselves you know and you scrub half

839
00:37:09,979 --> 00:37:07,229
of miss Tilly's half that's legit and

840
00:37:12,049 --> 00:37:09,989
that would be thousands of cases so you

841
00:37:13,549 --> 00:37:12,059
know of course yeah there's something

842
00:37:14,029 --> 00:37:13,559
going on and we're not being told about

843
00:37:16,099 --> 00:37:14,039
it

844
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:16,109
which is one of my big gripes because

845
00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:18,569
being a newsman I want the truth I want

846
00:37:23,150 --> 00:37:19,950
to know the truth about everything if

847
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:23,160
it's good bad I'm sorry but it's okay if

848
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,529
the Mafia's running the country you know

849
00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:27,839
okay so be it if everybody knows that

850
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,599
and accepts that then Who am I to say

851
00:37:34,759 --> 00:37:33,119
anything okay so you know but I just

852
00:37:36,709 --> 00:37:34,769
want to know I will know the truth I

853
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:36,719
don't know who are they and why they're

854
00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:38,729
here were they doing pretty well

855
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:40,680
answered a lot of that in my book alien

856
00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:42,070
agenda

857
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,700
and I think there's there's other things

858
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,160
going on today that point to the you

859
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:51,280
know they when there's old space launch

860
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:54,850
and it's apparently not secret and maybe

861
00:37:59,130 --> 00:37:56,650
not military like just putting up

862
00:38:01,470 --> 00:37:59,140
communication satellite it seems to go

863
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:01,480
off without a hitch but then like on the

864
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:03,340
Falcon 9 when their experiment and

865
00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:04,810
trying to put their own stuff up there

866
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:08,380
and when or like the Titan 4 when

867
00:38:13,770 --> 00:38:10,810
they're trying to put a military package

868
00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:13,780
under space all of a sudden these things

869
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:15,700
they go off course they disappear they

870
00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:18,760
blow up you know it's like again it's

871
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:21,460
almost like we're being quarantined hmm

872
00:38:26,190 --> 00:38:24,370
Wow yeah and have you heard about this

873
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:26,200
is a recent it's recently out in the

874
00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:29,410
news that they found this with if all

875
00:38:34,140 --> 00:38:31,900
the way back in 1973 in Romania they

876
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:34,150
found this thing that looks like a tool

877
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:37,420
or some type of like I saw that yeah all

878
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:39,850
that looked like some looks like some

879
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:43,870
kind of early axe head you know and it's

880
00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:45,700
I don't know very strange but it

881
00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:47,380
certainly didn't look like a natural

882
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:50,620
object and it's made out of 90% aluminum

883
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:53,530
right which they didn't even have until

884
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:54,970
200 years old

885
00:39:00,240 --> 00:38:58,000
begin yeah yeah the turn of the 1800s

886
00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:00,250
that's that's another thing about the

887
00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:01,840
Aurora spaceship crash which happened

888
00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:03,790
right here near me they have found

889
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:06,520
pieces of molten aluminum near the crash

890
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,680
site as late as 2013 and yet when I got

891
00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:14,800
onto that story and was interviewing mr.

892
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:17,830
Oates who had lived there since the 19th

893
00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:20,050
early 1940s he said there had been no

894
00:39:24,690 --> 00:39:22,870
explosions then so it had to go back

895
00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:24,700
past this and this of course was the

896
00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:28,030
account given in 1897 said the silver

897
00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:29,950
cigar-shaped objects settled towards the

898
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:32,590
earth hit the the windmill stand and

899
00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:36,010
blew up and scattered debris everywhere

900
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:38,590
well they've tested these balls of

901
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:40,570
aluminum that are embedded in the trees

902
00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:42,610
and the rocks indicating there was a

903
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,160
tremendous explosion and they find that

904
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:47,920
it's mostly aluminum but it is not quite

905
00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:50,260
the same composition as aluminum made

906
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:52,900
today well that had me go back and check

907
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:55,510
the history of aluminum in 1890

908
00:40:01,950 --> 00:39:58,450
and yes they had a little business but

909
00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:01,960
oh it costs more than gold that's right

910
00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:04,540
okay yeah and so the idea that they were

911
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:07,030
using that for a hoax or using that to

912
00:40:10,650 --> 00:40:08,950
try to build some phony baloneys

913
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:10,660
spaceship just doesn't make any sense at

914
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:12,850
all so see we have all of this

915
00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:14,410
information we have all this knowledge

916
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:16,660
but most people are not being told about

917
00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:19,660
it because the five corporations that

918
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,420
control everything we see in here does

919
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:25,440
not tell us these things hmm yeah now

920
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:29,680
the Aurora crash they're supposedly they

921
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:33,510
buried the body in in an unmarked grave

922
00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:36,610
well no it was marked at the end when I

923
00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:39,070
got on to the story in 1973 there was a

924
00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:41,260
little piece of a headstone still there

925
00:40:45,830 --> 00:40:43,000
and is real interesting Martin because

926
00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:45,840
picture this here you've got this little

927
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:49,780
upside-down U shape heads down with a V

928
00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:52,480
across it laying outside with little

929
00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:55,360
circles in the middle like like a little

930
00:41:03,150 --> 00:40:58,260
saucer shaped object with portholes

931
00:41:05,070 --> 00:41:03,160
mm-hmm well but but we all wrote about

932
00:41:06,180 --> 00:41:05,080
it bill case for the Dallas Morning News

933
00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:06,190
wrote about it

934
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:08,260
people started driving out there looking

935
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:10,570
around so he put a police guard on the

936
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:12,790
cemetery about Duke for about two weeks

937
00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:16,510
and the town marshal would would sit out

938
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:17,830
there during the day and then at night

939
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:20,130
at Wise County Sheriff Deputy would

940
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:22,870
patrol along there and so that went long

941
00:41:26,610 --> 00:41:24,430
for about two weeks and then the very

942
00:41:28,770 --> 00:41:26,620
night that they pull the police guard

943
00:41:30,090 --> 00:41:28,780
the little headstone went missing and

944
00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:30,100
hasn't been seen since

945
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:33,550
yeah well probably you know it did but

946
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:36,930
they won't allow the body to be exhumed

947
00:41:42,210 --> 00:41:40,030
no no at the tent well number one I

948
00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:42,220
don't think it's even there I think the

949
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:43,870
government's already assumed didn't many

950
00:41:51,620 --> 00:41:46,510
years ago so we're not missing anything

951
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:51,630
but and in fact it's late again at 73

952
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:54,190
bill case had a metal detector and we

953
00:41:58,650 --> 00:41:56,290
went over the little short grave and we

954
00:42:01,020 --> 00:41:58,660
found readings of dirt one near the

955
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:01,030
headstone and two towards the middle and

956
00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:03,130
I remember laughing and saying yeah

957
00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:05,260
that's probably his tricorder and you

958
00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:08,080
know that thing they use in Star Trek

959
00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:11,560
and we left and then after the headstone

960
00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:14,380
went missing from case he said meet me

961
00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:16,990
up in Aurora so I went up to Aurora and

962
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:20,020
he got his metal detector out we went

963
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:21,670
back over the grave and there was no

964
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:25,090
readings and I said whoa what happened

965
00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:26,560
here because it was quite obvious that

966
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:28,840
the whole brave had not been disinterred

967
00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:31,570
so we got on our hands and knees and we

968
00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:33,580
found three little holes one up here

969
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:35,320
where the headstone been and two right

970
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:37,450
in the center right where we had located

971
00:42:43,770 --> 00:42:42,310
the metal detection and I said man

972
00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:43,780
somebody used some sophisticated

973
00:42:49,470 --> 00:42:46,120
equipment came in here loaded located

974
00:42:52,050 --> 00:42:49,480
those those metal objects and then used

975
00:42:54,060 --> 00:42:52,060
like a core sampler or something to go

976
00:42:56,370 --> 00:42:54,070
down in there and just extract that out

977
00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:56,380
of that gray I said who you think did

978
00:43:00,540 --> 00:42:57,990
that you think that was the UFO

979
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:00,550
researchers and he said no and I didn't

980
00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:02,800
either he said I think it was the

981
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:04,630
government and I did too

982
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:06,910
well so they've known they've known

983
00:43:13,410 --> 00:43:09,850
since 1897 that we're not alone but

984
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,420
they've kept it from us now so I want to

985
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:15,040
talk to you about the government here in

986
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:18,640
a second but there was some speculation

987
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:22,240
that that was a small dirigible - I've

988
00:43:27,870 --> 00:43:24,970
heard that but again aluminum I know

989
00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:27,880
about aluminum as far as it was

990
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:30,760
extremely expensive like I've mentioned

991
00:43:36,330 --> 00:43:33,660
before and it would make friends but

992
00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:36,340
head well as far as the dirt ripple goes

993
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:37,870
keep in mind that I went back and

994
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:39,610
checked and found out that the you know

995
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:42,850
we've had balloons for a long time that

996
00:43:47,010 --> 00:43:44,890
balloons during the Civil War where it

997
00:43:48,690 --> 00:43:47,020
was but but they were all tethered okay

998
00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:48,700
they'd crank them up and then yeah

999
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:49,960
they'd go out there so they could just

1000
00:43:56,490 --> 00:43:53,650
scout the surrounding countryside but as

1001
00:43:59,220 --> 00:43:56,500
far as powered balloon flight the first

1002
00:44:01,530 --> 00:43:59,230
recorded powered balloons flight was in

1003
00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:01,540
the same year as the Wright brothers

1004
00:44:07,590 --> 00:44:04,150
flying which would been 1903 I believe

1005
00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:07,600
so say there was nothing man-made in the

1006
00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:10,390
air in 1897 Wow

1007
00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:12,340
yeah during the Civil War those balloons

1008
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:14,550
are really dangerous they'd blow up

1009
00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:17,230
right hydrogen I think they had in them

1010
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:18,940
I can't remember what it was but well if

1011
00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:21,370
his hydrogen yeah they blow up as that's

1012
00:44:27,090 --> 00:44:24,190
why the Hindenburg blew up but now if

1013
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:27,100
they used helium you can shoot him full

1014
00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:28,930
of holes and all they do is just slowly

1015
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:31,360
settle back down to the earth yeah but

1016
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,770
there were there were problems with the

1017
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:34,480
balloons I remember hearing about that

1018
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:35,020
missile

1019
00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:36,880
oh yeah well just all kinds of problems

1020
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:38,380
you know they put one up and then the

1021
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:40,270
wind had pick up and there it goes you

1022
00:44:45,690 --> 00:44:44,080
know yes in fact great steroids speak

1023
00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:45,700
the good science fiction stories I think

1024
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:49,000
this is HG Wells - and I can't remember

1025
00:44:51,570 --> 00:44:51,070
the title of it 15 days in a balloon or

1026
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:51,580
something like that

1027
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:53,740
anyway it was a took place in the Civil

1028
00:45:00,420 --> 00:44:56,650
War and these these Yankees are trying

1029
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:00,430
to escape prison camp and and then as a

1030
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:01,930
couple of Confederates got caught with

1031
00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:03,250
them and they were all on this balloon

1032
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:05,950
and they got swept away in this terrible

1033
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:08,110
storm and ended up on this mysterious

1034
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:09,910
island maybe that maybe that's the name

1035
00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:13,510
of it mysterious island anyway is a cool

1036
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:15,060
story you know

1037
00:45:19,590 --> 00:45:17,680
alright well one of the things you heard

1038
00:45:22,770 --> 00:45:19,600
you mention a few times is the

1039
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:22,780
government and I that's always been a

1040
00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:24,640
piece of the puzzle that's been a

1041
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:26,980
mystery well there are so many mysteries

1042
00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:30,610
but another piece where I've wondered if

1043
00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:32,620
there is a part of the government that

1044
00:45:39,090 --> 00:45:35,460
really knows what's going on and how

1045
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:39,100
compartmentalised is it and is need to

1046
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:42,190
know and how do things get past say all

1047
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:45,090
the way back from Roswell to current day

1048
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:49,930
who are the guards of the the knowledge

1049
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:53,770
of that have you ever looked into any of

1050
00:45:59,610 --> 00:45:56,650
that deeply oh yeah of course and that

1051
00:46:03,780 --> 00:45:59,620
brings us back to mj-12 if there is an

1052
00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:03,790
mj-12 who is mj-12 and mj-12 of course

1053
00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:06,790
was the small clique of people I think

1054
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:10,740
that it's probably been run under the

1055
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:14,050
technological Directorate of the Joint

1056
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:17,500
Chiefs of Staff and at some point way

1057
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:19,810
back there I think Eisenhower was

1058
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:23,950
probably the last US president who more

1059
00:46:31,050 --> 00:46:28,240
fully understood the alien UFO question

1060
00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:31,060
kennedy was not able to get to the

1061
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:33,550
questions and and and he knew

1062
00:46:39,450 --> 00:46:36,640
I in my book alien agenda I quote from a

1063
00:46:42,420 --> 00:46:39,460
guy named Bill Holden who was the

1064
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:42,430
loadmaster for Air Force one and he told

1065
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,850
me that in the summer of 1963 I believe

1066
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:47,680
when they went to Europe and Kennedy

1067
00:46:52,620 --> 00:46:49,540
made his famous it could be a night and

1068
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:52,630
bird in her speech you know that there

1069
00:46:56,250 --> 00:46:54,610
was kind of some stories about UFOs in

1070
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:56,260
the European media and he said Kennedy

1071
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:58,090
was actually pretty approachable and so

1072
00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:00,400
his went up James said mr. president he

1073
00:47:05,490 --> 00:47:02,950
says you know what do you think about

1074
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:05,500
UFOs and all these stories like that and

1075
00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:08,400
he said Kennedy grew quite serious and

1076
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:11,470
said quote I would like to tell the

1077
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,050
public about the alien situation but my

1078
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:15,760
hands are tied

1079
00:47:20,940 --> 00:47:18,970
whoa so even the even the president

1080
00:47:23,310 --> 00:47:20,950
knighted States may not have full access

1081
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:23,320
to everything that's going on but hey

1082
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:25,810
they they are now finally admitting that

1083
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:27,610
the Pentagon well if you'll remember the

1084
00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:31,690
day before 9/11 Donald Rumsfeld publicly

1085
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:33,640
stated that the Pentagon could not

1086
00:47:40,890 --> 00:47:38,170
account for 2.3 trillion dollars hmm

1087
00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:40,900
oops whoa that's more money than their

1088
00:47:47,610 --> 00:47:43,750
yearly budget for several years and now

1089
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:47,620
today it's a past eight trillion dollars

1090
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:50,110
now how does the government lose eight

1091
00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:52,450
trillion dollars and of course the fact

1092
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:54,550
is they don't it went somewhere very

1093
00:48:01,170 --> 00:47:58,000
very secret and I suspect it went to the

1094
00:48:04,410 --> 00:48:01,180
spacely well to give us you can't even

1095
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:04,420
fathom what a trillion dollars is but

1096
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:06,490
now if you tell someone if they counted

1097
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:10,330
day and night to 1 trillion it would

1098
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:13,090
take them 32,000 years that kind of

1099
00:48:17,970 --> 00:48:15,270
gives you an idea of what a trillion is

1100
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:17,980
exactly oh well gee yeah but I had it

1101
00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:21,130
when it came in right I don't know what

1102
00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:23,500
happened to it now this is so ridiculous

1103
00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:25,630
now and now who be handling all that

1104
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:27,700
money ok it'd be flowing among the

1105
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:30,640
defense contractors and you know the big

1106
00:48:37,470 --> 00:48:35,200
aircraft corporations and probably he

1107
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:37,480
probably can be traced back to the

1108
00:48:43,350 --> 00:48:40,750
Clinton Foundation ok which mean Batson

1109
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:43,360
could explain why she and her campaign

1110
00:48:47,180 --> 00:48:45,570
chairman John Podesta

1111
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:47,190
actually made little comments about

1112
00:48:52,250 --> 00:48:50,520
space and about UFOs and you know maybe

1113
00:48:54,350 --> 00:48:52,260
we need to look into that because hey I

1114
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,360
think they know and they know it's all

1115
00:48:58,250 --> 00:48:55,920
real and they don't want to look like

1116
00:49:01,100 --> 00:48:58,260
dummies when it finally all comes out so

1117
00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:01,110
they're making little you know plus if

1118
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:03,750
you'll stop and think about it I would

1119
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:07,170
think that the Liberals who are most are

1120
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,770
who is the supporters of Clinton they're

1121
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:13,680
probably more open to the idea of UFOs

1122
00:49:18,380 --> 00:49:15,690
and aliens then some of the staunch

1123
00:49:20,450 --> 00:49:18,390
conservatives so I think that was kind

1124
00:49:23,950 --> 00:49:20,460
of a cheap political ploy trying to

1125
00:49:26,330 --> 00:49:23,960
trying to garner more favor from their

1126
00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:26,340
constituents well I don't know that

1127
00:49:33,650 --> 00:49:31,260
started with here and well close by to

1128
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:33,660
where I am in New Hampshire a reporter

1129
00:49:40,550 --> 00:49:37,770
asking Hillary you know about the UFO

1130
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:40,560
issue right all right but you know John

1131
00:49:44,650 --> 00:49:43,650
Podesta has been interested in UFOs for

1132
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:44,660
years

1133
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:47,370
well whispers this way John Podesta has

1134
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:49,470
been in control of that issue for many

1135
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:54,050
years now you think so well yeah yeah

1136
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:56,610
well again where do you think all those

1137
00:50:00,800 --> 00:49:58,650
trillions went to you know you think

1138
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:00,810
they just you know just disappear I

1139
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:03,510
don't think so yet go somewhere and

1140
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,640
that's why they're still trying to get

1141
00:50:08,690 --> 00:50:07,440
Gary McKinnon back to this country

1142
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:08,700
saying put him in prison

1143
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:11,310
although the Pentagon has admitted that

1144
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:13,020
yeah he hacked into the Pentagon

1145
00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:14,760
computers but he didn't really do any

1146
00:50:18,860 --> 00:50:17,430
harm okay so while they were trying to

1147
00:50:20,990 --> 00:50:18,870
get him back here and punishing because

1148
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:21,000
when he got in Pentagon computers he

1149
00:50:24,830 --> 00:50:23,160
found the names of the officers and the

1150
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:24,840
bases and the names of the ships that

1151
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:27,290
compromised IRA Spacely

1152
00:50:33,470 --> 00:50:30,810
well yeah which which we're paying for

1153
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:33,480
but they won't even acknowledge kind of

1154
00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:35,910
like chemtrails you know we're paying

1155
00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:37,740
they're undoubtedly using our tax money

1156
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:39,870
to poison this but then they won't even

1157
00:50:48,620 --> 00:50:44,490
admit it's happening oh yeah now

1158
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:48,630
supposedly he he was using just like I

1159
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:51,000
want to say it I can't even remember

1160
00:50:56,570 --> 00:50:53,310
what you call when you have internet

1161
00:50:59,450 --> 00:50:56,580
over a phone line what's it called okay

1162
00:51:02,420 --> 00:50:59,460
I don't know how much information

1163
00:51:04,190 --> 00:51:02,430
he got into I know that there was some

1164
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:04,200
undoctored pictures and things like that

1165
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:07,170
but I didn't realize that the government

1166
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:09,330
was still of the US government was still

1167
00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:12,510
after him are they role yet gary

1168
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:16,070
mckinnon yeah well okay and I hear

1169
00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:18,570
connect the dots you know you go back to

1170
00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:23,160
the 33,000 missing emails the Duvall

1171
00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:26,670
Clinton also involved Podesta and it's

1172
00:51:29,780 --> 00:51:27,870
the only thing that's come out about

1173
00:51:33,110 --> 00:51:29,790
that is that some of that was highly

1174
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:33,120
classified material including some even

1175
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,330
special access was special access that's

1176
00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:38,640
that's even higher than top secret so

1177
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:41,190
they had access to what was going on up

1178
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:43,710
here okay and then you got all this

1179
00:51:48,770 --> 00:51:46,290
missing money and perhaps that's where

1180
00:51:55,070 --> 00:51:48,780
it was all being laundered and you know

1181
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:55,080
it's we don't know because you know who

1182
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:56,790
was it Obama said he was going to have a

1183
00:52:05,000 --> 00:51:59,490
transparent presidency well I guess he

1184
00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:05,010
has because I see right through him but

1185
00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:06,390
he hadn't told us anything and neither

1186
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:07,500
does anybody else

1187
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,290
yeah I think I think any president that

1188
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,960
gets there in there is up against well

1189
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:14,640
they they have their hands full to begin

1190
00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:18,330
with but I think they're all up against

1191
00:52:24,110 --> 00:52:21,240
a brick wall when it comes to you know

1192
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:24,120
revealing certain things so yeah so what

1193
00:52:28,850 --> 00:52:26,310
you're saying is and I totally agree

1194
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:28,860
is that the president United States the

1195
00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:31,770
leader of the free world is actually not

1196
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,700
charged and things are not going to get

1197
00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:37,680
better until we start figuring out who

1198
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:40,440
truly is in charge and how to get some

1199
00:52:44,290 --> 00:52:42,210
leverage over I'm getting do things that

1200
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:44,300
are in our inch is not their interest

1201
00:52:51,470 --> 00:52:47,490
yeah yeah for sure

1202
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:51,480
now getting back to the money the black

1203
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:54,930
projects or whatever that were some of

1204
00:53:00,620 --> 00:52:58,200
that those trillions went to there's a

1205
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,630
lot of people talking about the all the

1206
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:02,400
black triangles they see today and they

1207
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:04,530
are speculating that their secret

1208
00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:09,630
government you know aircraft you know I

1209
00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:11,400
don't know I have mixed feelings about

1210
00:53:16,210 --> 00:53:14,030
that because I just can't see how

1211
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:16,220
something that could be kept so secret

1212
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:18,800
but what are your thoughts on that well

1213
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:21,510
I know I tend to think there's some

1214
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:23,250
validity that I mean we already know

1215
00:53:29,810 --> 00:53:27,210
about the Blackbird and sr1 various

1216
00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:29,820
things like that but that they for a

1217
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:31,950
long time they said didn't exist and now

1218
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:35,040
that met the other exists and I can't

1219
00:53:40,180 --> 00:53:36,480
remember now they've actually come out

1220
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,190
and and admitted to the the suborbital

1221
00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:43,200
ship the Aurora they call the Aurora

1222
00:53:48,770 --> 00:53:47,160
interestingly enough but everyone's

1223
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:48,780
pretty well acknowledging aviation

1224
00:53:52,430 --> 00:53:50,280
experts already know that yeah that's

1225
00:53:56,270 --> 00:53:52,440
there yeah we do have secret government

1226
00:53:58,310 --> 00:53:56,280
test craft okay but see don't don't fall

1227
00:54:00,410 --> 00:53:58,320
into the trap of saying that because now

1228
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,420
we have some secret government test

1229
00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:01,920
craft at everything that everybody's

1230
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:03,180
seen all through the years has been

1231
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,010
secret government test craft because I

1232
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:08,160
guarantee in 1897 we didn't have any

1233
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,850
secret government test craft so you know

1234
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:13,680
there's something else going on in

1235
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:16,050
addition to that but yes and that's

1236
00:54:23,930 --> 00:54:18,810
entirely possible that's why when you do

1237
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:23,940
have something like the official UFO

1238
00:54:29,180 --> 00:54:26,850
investigation like Blue Book that's easy

1239
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:29,190
for them say oh well that was a secret

1240
00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:31,260
government test craft and then there

1241
00:54:34,820 --> 00:54:33,030
everybody goes oh okay and that's in

1242
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:34,830
that well maybe it was maybe it wasn't

1243
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:36,510
we don't really know but that's a good

1244
00:54:42,590 --> 00:54:38,690
way to keep the whole thing covered up

1245
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:42,600
did you ever look into the Stephenville

1246
00:54:49,220 --> 00:54:45,410
is it Stevensville is even Vil its

1247
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:49,230
Stephenville do ya I did and that one

1248
00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:52,170
that one is a great one pia really need

1249
00:54:56,450 --> 00:54:54,180
to concentrate on that one because here

1250
00:54:59,840 --> 00:54:56,460
we had one night they had multiple

1251
00:55:02,860 --> 00:54:59,850
sightings of these long slow flying huge

1252
00:55:05,450 --> 00:55:02,870
objects maybe a mile wide you know and

1253
00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:05,460
that very night the local median

1254
00:55:10,310 --> 00:55:07,590
dallas-fort Worth actually did their job

1255
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:10,320
and they called up the military and said

1256
00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:11,730
you know you guys got anything in the

1257
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:13,740
air and there are going no no not us we

1258
00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:14,910
don't have anything in the air you know

1259
00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:17,190
so it kind of got to be a pretty big

1260
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:19,860
dealing for the first time again on the

1261
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:21,780
major news programs instead of

1262
00:55:26,290 --> 00:55:24,300
snickering and saying well farmer Jones

1263
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,300
city saw some out

1264
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,040
no.9 land rolling their eyes you know

1265
00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:31,200
like they had been for years they

1266
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:32,760
actually took it seriously and begin to

1267
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:35,490
report on what was going on and then the

1268
00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:38,610
thing that really kills me is about two

1269
00:55:42,620 --> 00:55:40,590
weeks later now they come on with a

1270
00:55:46,690 --> 00:55:42,630
program saying the military says that

1271
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:46,700
well actually we had something like 24

1272
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:49,950
f-16s in the area flying around you know

1273
00:55:55,010 --> 00:55:52,710
on some kind of exercise and I just

1274
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:55,020
about choked right there if you'll think

1275
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:56,970
back to the morning of 9/11 when we were

1276
00:56:02,000 --> 00:55:59,490
actually under attack and they sent two

1277
00:56:05,330 --> 00:56:02,010
squadrons of f6 teams those two

1278
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:05,340
squadrons were to each for is the most

1279
00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:07,650
they could get together and then trying

1280
00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:09,420
to tell us they had two dozen flying

1281
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:11,160
around in Texas on the night of the

1282
00:56:16,790 --> 00:56:13,410
sightings of the Stephenville it's just

1283
00:56:19,490 --> 00:56:16,800
more lies and smoke screens you know

1284
00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:19,500
they just will not tell us the truth of

1285
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:21,420
what's going on do you know if that's

1286
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:23,730
ever been a lot of you know some major

1287
00:56:27,980 --> 00:56:26,610
sightings they say you know repeat like

1288
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:27,990
the Phoenix lights and things like that

1289
00:56:33,110 --> 00:56:30,210
right has even they'll ever been

1290
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:33,120
repeated absolutely absolutely it

1291
00:56:36,740 --> 00:56:35,250
continued on after the news died away

1292
00:56:39,050 --> 00:56:36,750
and about a year later there were more

1293
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:39,060
going through there over there yeah and

1294
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,650
it's the same thing with the Phoenix

1295
00:56:44,540 --> 00:56:42,480
lights you know when most people

1296
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:44,550
especially the UFO researchers they all

1297
00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:47,010
know about the Phoenix flyover of I

1298
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:51,540
think that was what 1995 97 97 thank you

1299
00:56:57,770 --> 00:56:55,410
and but then Baton nobody pays attention

1300
00:56:59,870 --> 00:56:57,780
to that you're after they came back your

1301
00:57:01,550 --> 00:56:59,880
after that came back you know it's not

1302
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:01,560
the only time this thing's flown over

1303
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:05,400
Phoenix yeah no but see people people

1304
00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:06,930
don't know that because they're not told

1305
00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:09,240
that by the corporate mass media so they

1306
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:11,700
just think well this just does not thing

1307
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:14,010
but it was probably military flares like

1308
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:17,490
they said now one of the yeah right and

1309
00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:20,640
one of the things that I always question

1310
00:57:27,580 --> 00:57:23,160
I can't get my head around it and that

1311
00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:27,590
is why are there hot spots why would one

1312
00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:32,040
say one ship be over Phoenix and then

1313
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:33,960
you know a year later the same ship over

1314
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:37,110
Phoenix you know what I mean uh-huh well

1315
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:39,330
I gave it I can give you two words white

1316
00:57:44,590 --> 00:57:40,140
lines

1317
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:44,600
hmm the energy grid they are powered and

1318
00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:48,480
apparently track along the ley lines the

1319
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:51,510
energy grid that encompasses the world

1320
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:55,440
and so that's why they tend to come over

1321
00:58:02,810 --> 00:57:57,210
the same areas if it's a particularly

1322
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:02,820
hot ley line intersection recently the

1323
00:58:10,310 --> 00:58:05,910
there was a an announcement from NASA

1324
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:10,320
that the Hubble had done a 20-year

1325
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:13,890
research on of the amount of galaxies

1326
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:16,650
and it appears it was about between 10

1327
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:20,370
and 20 times more than they thought up

1328
00:58:27,710 --> 00:58:24,810
to 2 trillion galaxies so with that in

1329
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:27,720
mind I mean the possibility of life out

1330
00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:29,490
there not on just on planets been on

1331
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:33,630
moons as well oh it is multiplies

1332
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:36,930
exponentially right right but I mean the

1333
00:58:45,050 --> 00:58:38,690
question is why would we be so unique

1334
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:45,060
that we would be visited I guess that

1335
00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:47,520
way often right and I think the answer

1336
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:51,000
is and probably we're not we're just

1337
00:58:56,140 --> 00:58:53,160
unique because we're the only ones we

1338
00:58:59,450 --> 00:58:56,150
know and so we think we're pretty hot

1339
00:59:02,930 --> 00:58:59,460
right but I mean what why would we be

1340
00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:02,940
visited instead of other light bearing

1341
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,160
planets are they being visited - I mean

1342
00:59:10,910 --> 00:59:07,440
that's well it depends on what stage

1343
00:59:12,890 --> 00:59:10,920
you're at if you're at a stage where you

1344
00:59:16,610 --> 00:59:12,900
I have already entered into the

1345
00:59:18,830 --> 00:59:16,620
intergalactic Federation brotherhood

1346
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:18,840
whatever you want to call it okay then

1347
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:21,090
yeah chances are they come and go and

1348
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:23,640
there's you know probably have scenes

1349
00:59:27,290 --> 00:59:25,410
like in Star Wars where you have all

1350
00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:27,300
these different races you know mixing at

1351
00:59:35,180 --> 00:59:30,420
the spaceship bar or something but then

1352
00:59:37,730 --> 00:59:35,190
if they are even more primitive than the

1353
00:59:39,770 --> 00:59:37,740
earth is and just number one how do you

1354
00:59:42,860 --> 00:59:39,780
determine where the earth is now anyway

1355
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:42,870
if I come to your house you've got

1356
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:44,130
running

1357
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:49,680
and heating and air conditioning and

1358
00:59:54,510 --> 00:59:51,520
nice furniture and

1359
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:54,520
oh hey you're top of the head on top of

1360
01:00:00,000 --> 00:59:57,280
line but if I was to go to certain parts

1361
01:00:03,090 --> 01:00:00,010
of India or Africa or Asia you know and

1362
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:03,100
find people living in mud huts still

1363
01:00:09,150 --> 01:00:05,890
trying to warm water over a fire you

1364
01:00:11,730 --> 01:00:09,160
know that again the earth is just not

1365
01:00:13,770 --> 01:00:11,740
we're just not one homogeneous world

1366
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:13,780
we're a whole collection of different

1367
01:00:19,950 --> 01:00:16,390
species and at different stages of

1368
01:00:21,780 --> 01:00:19,960
evolution so I don't know I guess you'd

1369
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:21,790
answer your question it depends on what

1370
01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:23,650
stage of the evolution the planets own

1371
01:00:28,310 --> 01:00:26,500
if they're very very primitive very very

1372
01:00:31,020 --> 01:00:28,320
backwards then I think you would be

1373
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:31,030
interfering with their natural progress

1374
01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:33,610
by showing yourself and by trying to

1375
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:35,380
interact you know with this other

1376
01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:38,170
species whereas on the other hand if you

1377
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,790
leave them alone quarantine them and

1378
01:00:44,580 --> 01:00:41,440
just leave them to their own devices

1379
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,590
then maybe perhaps maybe with a gentle

1380
01:00:49,230 --> 01:00:46,720
nudge now and then you can push them on

1381
01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:49,240
up the evolutionary ladder and get them

1382
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:50,830
to the point to where they could be part

1383
01:00:56,580 --> 01:00:55,090
of the intergalactic family hmm yeah you

1384
01:00:59,490 --> 01:00:56,590
know one of the things that we need to

1385
01:01:01,890 --> 01:00:59,500
talk about being seated you know that's

1386
01:01:03,810 --> 01:01:01,900
always a that's always been a thought of

1387
01:01:07,650 --> 01:01:03,820
myung a possibility of course that that

1388
01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:07,660
could be but also is it just intelligent

1389
01:01:14,010 --> 01:01:10,270
life that's seated or could part of the

1390
01:01:16,670 --> 01:01:14,020
animal kingdom be seated as well I mean

1391
01:01:20,790 --> 01:01:16,680
if we were an experiment they probably

1392
01:01:22,110 --> 01:01:20,800
you know well you know who knows what it

1393
01:01:24,210 --> 01:01:22,120
makes sense if you're going to come down

1394
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:24,220
here and seed with some intelligent

1395
01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:27,040
primitive life and why not throw in a

1396
01:01:32,430 --> 01:01:28,860
few animals you know that might prove

1397
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:32,440
productive or helpful you know yeah as

1398
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:35,890
long as it didn't eat the yeah yeah yeah

1399
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:38,530
you know getting back to mj-12 you

1400
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:42,030
mentioned earlier I have kind of a

1401
01:01:48,330 --> 01:01:44,170
deflated announcement to make and that

1402
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:48,340
is a several months ago I had been at an

1403
01:01:52,410 --> 01:01:49,810
auction gallery a friend of mine owns

1404
01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:52,420
and he told me he had some papers when

1405
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:54,340
he found out that I did a show on UFOs

1406
01:01:59,790 --> 01:01:56,010
he had some papers for me to look at

1407
01:02:02,640 --> 01:01:59,800
that belonged to a CIA retired CIA agent

1408
01:02:04,890 --> 01:02:02,650
who passed away and he showed them to me

1409
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:04,900
and they were the mj-12 documents a copy

1410
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:09,970
ah but so I ended up speaking uh well I

1411
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:11,950
didn't speak but my friend spoke with

1412
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:15,970
the son of the man and asked why he

1413
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:18,610
thought his father might have those you

1414
01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:21,090
know being in the CIA and all that and

1415
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:25,270
the answer was kind of a you know no

1416
01:02:30,330 --> 01:02:27,250
answer at all like he had no idea the

1417
01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:30,340
papers were there and he had no idea why

1418
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:32,950
his father would have them and as far as

1419
01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:34,330
he knew his father didn't have any

1420
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:36,340
interest in UFOs that's the only answer

1421
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:40,390
I can give the listening audience so it

1422
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:42,310
could just be that he had some type of

1423
01:02:48,510 --> 01:02:44,170
passing interest or someone sent them to

1424
01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:48,520
him who knows I know that the real

1425
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:51,790
controversial those papers anyway so it

1426
01:02:55,290 --> 01:02:53,410
might have been something circulating

1427
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:55,300
around well yeah it's just controversial

1428
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,130
because you know it's easy enough for

1429
01:03:01,500 --> 01:02:58,960
somebody and authorities to say all

1430
01:03:02,850 --> 01:03:01,510
that's not true you know and and that's

1431
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:02,860
the nature of cover-up that's how

1432
01:03:05,490 --> 01:03:03,910
they've covered up to Kennedy

1433
01:03:07,170 --> 01:03:05,500
assassination that's how they covered up

1434
01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:07,180
9/11 that's how they've covered up any

1435
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:10,270
number of scandals and corruptions and

1436
01:03:14,820 --> 01:03:12,910
stuff it's like Napoleon said it's

1437
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:14,830
unnecessary to bury the truth only

1438
01:03:20,700 --> 01:03:17,920
necessary to obscure it until nobody

1439
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:20,710
cares and that's what they've done they

1440
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:22,690
just you know come up with a theory and

1441
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:24,250
a counter theory and a charge and

1442
01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:26,620
counter-charge until the average person

1443
01:03:29,490 --> 01:03:28,420
just shakes her head and goes out and I

1444
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:29,500
don't want to hear any more about that

1445
01:03:33,930 --> 01:03:30,970
do you think this would happen with

1446
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:33,940
Roswell would you say yeah exactly

1447
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:36,250
that's why they had cover story on top

1448
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:38,410
of cover story with some backup cover

1449
01:03:43,710 --> 01:03:41,410
stories I know some years ago a friend

1450
01:03:46,310 --> 01:03:43,720
of mine published a book but the truth

1451
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:46,320
of Roswell and he had met an old couple

1452
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:49,810
who had worked there at the time and

1453
01:03:54,890 --> 01:03:52,510
they told him this incredible tale about

1454
01:03:56,790 --> 01:03:54,900
how that it was a bunch of Japanese

1455
01:03:58,830 --> 01:03:56,800
prisoners or something like that

1456
01:04:01,080 --> 01:03:58,840
with their heads shaven and that they

1457
01:04:03,530 --> 01:04:01,090
put in this capsule there's been an

1458
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:03,540
accident it caught fire I don't know

1459
01:04:10,110 --> 01:04:07,510
this whole weird story and you know and

1460
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:10,120
it just didn't it didn't jibe with

1461
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:12,850
anything that I knew about Roswell but

1462
01:04:16,620 --> 01:04:15,010
it was a fascinating story and so you

1463
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:16,630
know I went to my friend I said you know

1464
01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:18,490
you met these people yeah

1465
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:20,320
do you think they were line tea no no I

1466
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:21,910
think there were credible people and

1467
01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:23,230
after talking with him for a while I

1468
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:25,060
decided okay I think maybe they were

1469
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:27,609
credible people so what's going on well

1470
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:29,440
I just kept digging further and I said

1471
01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:31,330
look does either one of these people did

1472
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:33,670
they have direct knowledge of what

1473
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:35,440
they're telling you about and he thought

1474
01:04:43,890 --> 01:04:38,410
for many he said well no they were told

1475
01:04:46,829 --> 01:04:43,900
this other superiors aha so see somebody

1476
01:04:49,710 --> 01:04:46,839
way back there they discover story on

1477
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:49,720
this couple knowing that in their dotage

1478
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:52,690
they would probably finally come out and

1479
01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:55,450
tell the story which was just add more

1480
01:05:02,250 --> 01:04:58,810
controversy another another theory if

1481
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:02,260
you will and it would help cover the

1482
01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:04,210
truth of and that's how it works

1483
01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:07,359
I sometimes wonder you know a theer's

1484
01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:10,180
like a hundred years from now if we

1485
01:05:16,290 --> 01:05:13,990
still don't know for sure we still have

1486
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:16,300
no proof that we're being visited as we

1487
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:20,650
have today no real proof a hundred years

1488
01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:23,770
from now what will Roswell be like is it

1489
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:25,540
you know is it just going to be right

1490
01:05:32,130 --> 01:05:28,330
now it's kind of a you know it's a fair

1491
01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:32,140
during every July 4th right and and even

1492
01:05:36,750 --> 01:05:33,400
and even during the rest of the year

1493
01:05:39,180 --> 01:05:36,760
yeah when I first went to Roswell it was

1494
01:05:41,609 --> 01:05:39,190
just a sleepy little New Mexico town and

1495
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:41,619
it's a lot smaller than most people

1496
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:44,290
think and most of the people I talked to

1497
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:45,910
they didn't care and they even want to

1498
01:05:50,070 --> 01:05:48,250
talk about UFOs or flying saucers you

1499
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:50,080
know in fact a lot of them are going

1500
01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:51,970
eyes nothing to it nothing to it because

1501
01:05:55,020 --> 01:05:53,950
they don't want you know it's kind of

1502
01:05:56,339 --> 01:05:55,030
like where I live out here in rural

1503
01:05:59,250 --> 01:05:56,349
Texas people live out in the country

1504
01:06:01,740 --> 01:05:59,260
because they won't be left alone ok and

1505
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:01,750
so you try to bring up specially weird

1506
01:06:05,730 --> 01:06:04,150
stuff there first tendency is go out I

1507
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:05,740
don't know there's nothing there don't

1508
01:06:12,410 --> 01:06:08,050
don't worry about that but then of

1509
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:12,420
course they begin to discover how

1510
01:06:20,609 --> 01:06:17,890
lucrative it could be commercially to to

1511
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:20,619
market to your audience and so more the

1512
01:06:24,180 --> 01:06:22,510
last few times have been in Roswell I

1513
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:24,190
mean they got little aliens all of

1514
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:27,070
dentistry again they had a UFO crashing

1515
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:28,990
into the front of the Walmart they got I

1516
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:30,970
mean the whole town now is on the

1517
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:31,810
bandwagon

1518
01:06:36,690 --> 01:06:34,810
and I think that in the future well

1519
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:36,700
number one is not going to be such a big

1520
01:06:40,770 --> 01:06:38,410
deal because I think we're very very

1521
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:40,780
close to where enough people are going

1522
01:06:44,670 --> 01:06:42,610
yes okay all right it's real they're

1523
01:06:47,070 --> 01:06:44,680
here you know and they we just start

1524
01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:47,080
accepting it but if everything rocks

1525
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:49,120
along the way it is yeah I think that in

1526
01:06:53,370 --> 01:06:51,130
the near future Roswell just going to be

1527
01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:53,380
a bigger bigger tourist destination as

1528
01:06:59,820 --> 01:06:55,510
more and more people realize the reality

1529
01:07:02,340 --> 01:06:59,830
of UFOs so you think I don't want to

1530
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:02,350
necessarily use the word of disclosure

1531
01:07:08,820 --> 01:07:06,310
but do you think that's near the future

1532
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:08,830
that people will accept that we are

1533
01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:11,680
being visited I think the majority of

1534
01:07:16,350 --> 01:07:13,660
people have accepted it now it's just

1535
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:16,360
not being announced you know what I mean

1536
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:18,160
when I'm talking about the tipping point

1537
01:07:23,130 --> 01:07:20,890
you know there's a tipping point where a

1538
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:23,140
certain number certain percentage of the

1539
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:25,330
public began to believe something and it

1540
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:27,250
doesn't have to be a majority it could

1541
01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:30,010
be 15 percent 20 percent maybe 25

1542
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:32,350
percent but at a certain point when

1543
01:07:37,830 --> 01:07:34,300
enough people begin to realize what the

1544
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:37,840
truth is then it it tilts it tips and

1545
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,330
then pretty soon everybody is pretty

1546
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:43,200
well accepting that case in point in

1547
01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:46,680
1964 the poll showed virtually nobody

1548
01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:49,150
believed that Lee Harvey Oswald was the

1549
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:50,950
lone assassin of President Kennedy but

1550
01:07:57,150 --> 01:07:52,750
it was never talked about it was never

1551
01:07:59,310 --> 01:07:57,160
acknowledged by the mass media today the

1552
01:08:01,530 --> 01:07:59,320
mass media is still not acknowledging it

1553
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:01,540
but the polls show that 80 percent or

1554
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:03,130
more you go ask somebody was there a

1555
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:05,170
conspiracy to kill Kennedy and 80

1556
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:06,610
percent of them are going to say yes

1557
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:09,970
okay so it's just you know we reach the

1558
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:12,010
tipping point and now the most people

1559
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:14,110
know yes it was conspiracy well we're

1560
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:16,960
going to hit that same point if there is

1561
01:08:24,599 --> 01:08:21,730
not an open open admission which

1562
01:08:27,630 --> 01:08:24,609
probably incoming or been an open

1563
01:08:29,070 --> 01:08:27,640
disclosure for example if there is

1564
01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:29,080
disclosure it's probably going to be up

1565
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:31,839
to them all they got to do is come hover

1566
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:34,210
over a big city in daytime and hang

1567
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:36,130
there long enough for the news crews to

1568
01:08:40,460 --> 01:08:37,870
get out and get good pictures of it and

1569
01:08:42,599 --> 01:08:40,470
the game's up you know there they are I

1570
01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:42,609
thought you said this was going to

1571
01:08:46,519 --> 01:08:43,710
happen they would have done

1572
01:08:50,269 --> 01:08:46,529
a long time ago I don't I don't know it

1573
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:50,279
just seems so it seems so evasive and

1574
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:53,279
well okay but here's here's the thing

1575
01:08:57,050 --> 01:08:54,810
first you got to go back and hadn't been

1576
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:57,060
that many years ago in the same

1577
01:09:01,999 --> 01:08:58,650
newspaper that carries the Aurora

1578
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:02,009
spaceship crash story there's a little

1579
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:04,049
item from Granbury Texas and it says

1580
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:06,930
last night at 9:30 the riddle rifles

1581
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:09,600
while while drilling the riddle rifles

1582
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:11,460
whatever they were some kind of militia

1583
01:09:16,459 --> 01:09:14,489
yes said the leader saw the air machine

1584
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:16,469
of which we've heard so much and being a

1585
01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:18,210
populous he couldn't stand in the side

1586
01:09:21,890 --> 01:09:19,620
of the air machine so he ordered the

1587
01:09:24,410 --> 01:09:21,900
company to open fire and they did and

1588
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:24,420
soon the whole town was aroused okay

1589
01:09:29,780 --> 01:09:27,450
what is it Joe Bob I don't know shoot at

1590
01:09:31,999 --> 01:09:29,790
it and that's what they do okay and

1591
01:09:33,769 --> 01:09:32,009
that's what's been the the usual thing

1592
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:33,779
all the way go back to the fifties movie

1593
01:09:36,979 --> 01:09:35,250
you know there's something weird would

1594
01:09:38,510 --> 01:09:36,989
you be around the desert and they go

1595
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:38,520
running out there with their gun right

1596
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:41,310
so I think that's what's kind of held

1597
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:43,770
things up in the past and today maybe we

1598
01:09:48,559 --> 01:09:45,839
wouldn't be quite so fast on the trigger

1599
01:09:52,099 --> 01:09:48,569
but nevertheless they they have to be

1600
01:09:54,050 --> 01:09:52,109
concerned about how the revelation that

1601
01:09:56,060 --> 01:09:54,060
we're not alone is played out to the

1602
01:09:58,729 --> 01:09:56,070
public because it could be very

1603
01:10:02,959 --> 01:09:58,739
traumatic just a lot of people in

1604
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:02,969
political ways religious ways etc etc so

1605
01:10:06,590 --> 01:10:04,770
I think there's kind of been an

1606
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:06,600
agreement all the way around both for

1607
01:10:10,220 --> 01:10:08,610
humans nonhumans everybody else they say

1608
01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:10,230
I think the best thing for right now is

1609
01:10:14,450 --> 01:10:12,780
just you know keep it on the Qt and the

1610
01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:14,460
people who want to study want to open

1611
01:10:17,930 --> 01:10:15,719
their mind want to learn want to

1612
01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:17,940
understand that all this is real that's

1613
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:20,190
fine they can do that but then all the

1614
01:10:24,410 --> 01:10:22,110
rest of the people then just you know go

1615
01:10:28,910 --> 01:10:24,420
their merry way in fact if you'll think

1616
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,920
about it this is exactly the attack that

1617
01:10:32,209 --> 01:10:30,719
the government has taken because let's

1618
01:10:35,060 --> 01:10:32,219
face it the government is the government

1619
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:35,070
of all of us okay and there's a good

1620
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:37,410
many of us who just frankly don't want

1621
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:40,800
to know okay so like when it comes to

1622
01:10:45,740 --> 01:10:43,530
Roswell they say oh well there was just

1623
01:10:47,450 --> 01:10:45,750
crash dummies okay well now people

1624
01:10:50,180 --> 01:10:47,460
who've actually studied the case like

1625
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:50,190
yourself myself we know that that's just

1626
01:10:55,250 --> 01:10:52,860
not not right it's not right it is

1627
01:10:57,530 --> 01:10:55,260
simply not right because they didn't

1628
01:11:00,590 --> 01:10:57,540
even have the crash dummies test until

1629
01:11:02,930 --> 01:11:00,600
during starting in 1954 so on the one

1630
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:02,940
hand we go wow they're lying to us and

1631
01:11:07,970 --> 01:11:05,730
then holy cow they're lying to us that

1632
01:11:10,190 --> 01:11:07,980
must mean it's really true so it's kind

1633
01:11:12,530 --> 01:11:10,200
of a backhanded way of confirming that

1634
01:11:14,660 --> 01:11:12,540
yes something very unearthly happened at

1635
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:14,670
Roswell but for the people who don't

1636
01:11:18,230 --> 01:11:16,890
want to know things sleep peacefully at

1637
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:18,240
night and say well the government said

1638
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:21,090
it was crash dummies and then going back

1639
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:23,850
sleep you know so so the government is

1640
01:11:28,030 --> 01:11:25,410
actually trying to take care of both

1641
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:28,040
sides of issue in both types of people

1642
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:30,930
you know which is may or may not be such

1643
01:11:35,420 --> 01:11:33,780
a bad thing but I know you and I would

1644
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:35,430
probably feel a lot better if they just

1645
01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:40,290
tell us the truth yeah yeah I agree also

1646
01:11:46,010 --> 01:11:42,840
that you know a lot of people is just

1647
01:11:49,490 --> 01:11:46,020
not part of their thoughts you know

1648
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:49,500
they're busy with life and and you know

1649
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:51,510
they're absorbed with what's right in

1650
01:11:55,070 --> 01:11:53,610
front of them and not even a lot of

1651
01:11:59,980 --> 01:11:55,080
people don't even think about you know

1652
01:12:02,510 --> 01:11:59,990
any part of space for instance so unless

1653
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:02,520
you know if someone has a sighting

1654
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:04,410
generally speaking that will change

1655
01:12:09,650 --> 01:12:08,130
everything you're right right well if

1656
01:12:11,780 --> 01:12:09,660
it's well I don't know you can go on

1657
01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:11,790
internet right now and just go to Google

1658
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:13,980
Images and type in UFO you can spend

1659
01:12:18,740 --> 01:12:16,800
days weeks maybe even months looking at

1660
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:18,750
all the stuff that pops up there now if

1661
01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:21,330
you're ready to include that in your

1662
01:12:25,220 --> 01:12:23,550
world outlook then that's cool and you

1663
01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:25,230
go wow there they are you know and look

1664
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,760
all these different ones and blah blah

1665
01:12:30,740 --> 01:12:28,640
blah and course some of them are really

1666
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:30,750
fuzzy and some of them are pretty sharp

1667
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:32,130
and clear and some of them are really

1668
01:12:36,890 --> 01:12:35,520
kind of dangerous looking and some of

1669
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:36,900
them look kind of just like little you

1670
01:12:41,690 --> 01:12:40,110
know little get around and so you know

1671
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:41,700
you can kind of put into it what you

1672
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:44,730
want but if you don't want to know about

1673
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:46,530
that and don't believe in them and

1674
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:48,090
you're not going to go look at those

1675
01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:50,370
images and for your little world they

1676
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:53,190
just they're not there yeah yeah that's

1677
01:12:59,210 --> 01:12:55,890
funny my son had not even thought about

1678
01:13:01,490 --> 01:12:59,220
UFOs until I told him I did it I told I

1679
01:13:03,470 --> 01:13:01,500
started the show on it told him about my

1680
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:03,480
sighting all in one night and he started

1681
01:13:12,510 --> 01:13:06,330
looking into it and he's still like on

1682
01:13:14,609 --> 01:13:12,520
the fence whether they exist or not I

1683
01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:14,619
especially doing the show how many

1684
01:13:18,959 --> 01:13:16,270
people I've talked to I have no idea at

1685
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:18,969
this point but I really do think there

1686
01:13:25,470 --> 01:13:22,210
is something going on I still I still

1687
01:13:27,689 --> 01:13:25,480
don't know exactly what and I've said

1688
01:13:29,310 --> 01:13:27,699
this before on the show that it may be

1689
01:13:32,339 --> 01:13:29,320
something we haven't really even thought

1690
01:13:34,770 --> 01:13:32,349
of yet you know that is possible right

1691
01:13:37,649 --> 01:13:34,780
you know some of the ideas of what

1692
01:13:41,819 --> 01:13:37,659
people are seeing are pretty incredible

1693
01:13:44,129 --> 01:13:41,829
you know yeah yeah yeah yeah oh well you

1694
01:13:46,859 --> 01:13:44,139
know I've heard some doozies including

1695
01:13:49,290 --> 01:13:46,869
from some military people who somehow

1696
01:13:51,810 --> 01:13:49,300
another got information that a UFO kept

1697
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:51,820
appearing above this lake up and I

1698
01:13:55,140 --> 01:13:53,170
believe the Northwest

1699
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:55,150
so they went over there and actually set

1700
01:13:58,859 --> 01:13:57,250
up on it and the most incredible thing

1701
01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:58,869
about this thing is when the UFO

1702
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:01,360
appeared that was it it didn't come from

1703
01:14:08,490 --> 01:14:04,480
somewhere it just appeared it just kind

1704
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:08,500
of materialized out of thin air and they

1705
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:10,090
were all looking at it and trying to get

1706
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:11,590
some pictures and trying to get some

1707
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:13,810
into some information and then

1708
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:15,520
apparently it became aware of them

1709
01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:17,050
because they've been in to turn towards

1710
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:19,480
them and was I can't remember now maybe

1711
01:14:23,370 --> 01:14:21,130
it was like sending out some kind of

1712
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:23,380
beam anyway scared the crap out of it

1713
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:26,170
and they all took off and ran wow these

1714
01:14:31,770 --> 01:14:27,670
are these are these are these tough

1715
01:14:34,129 --> 01:14:31,780
tough military guys man yeah well then

1716
01:14:38,209 --> 01:14:34,139
that gets into you know you hear about

1717
01:14:41,970 --> 01:14:38,219
other dimensions or you know possible

1718
01:14:46,109 --> 01:14:41,980
dimensional travel yeah because there is

1719
01:14:50,459 --> 01:14:46,119
the problem of the amount of you know a

1720
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:50,469
distance of so but I again but yeah but

1721
01:14:55,740 --> 01:14:53,170
we don't we don't know see everything up

1722
01:14:58,290 --> 01:14:55,750
until now we've always based what we

1723
01:14:59,790 --> 01:14:58,300
think we know about how they transfer

1724
01:15:02,010 --> 01:14:59,800
how they communicate everything else

1725
01:15:04,589 --> 01:15:02,020
just based on what our technology is

1726
01:15:06,839 --> 01:15:04,599
okay now you know if you took off from

1727
01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:06,849
the earth and a rocket ship it was you

1728
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:09,940
know it was fuel jet fuel and you're

1729
01:15:15,209 --> 01:15:12,730
pushing those turbines or whatever he

1730
01:15:17,459 --> 01:15:15,219
has going to take you hundred years to

1731
01:15:19,530 --> 01:15:17,469
get one light year or something you know

1732
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:19,540
but wait what if they're using

1733
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:21,520
technology that we don't yet know about

1734
01:15:25,109 --> 01:15:22,650
you

1735
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:25,119
absolutely and of course what they're

1736
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:26,800
talking about now now you're getting

1737
01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:30,489
into physics and geophysics and all

1738
01:15:34,699 --> 01:15:32,289
kinds of stuff where they're talking

1739
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:34,709
about wormholes and other dimensions and

1740
01:15:39,930 --> 01:15:37,570
folding time and space and you know we

1741
01:15:40,949 --> 01:15:39,940
just really don't know what what's out

1742
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:40,959
there

1743
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:43,360
but I just I for one happen to believe

1744
01:15:50,219 --> 01:15:47,289
that if man can even conceive of it we

1745
01:15:52,140 --> 01:15:50,229
can do it yeah yeah that's for sure and

1746
01:15:55,469 --> 01:15:52,150
I think we'll be seeing more and more

1747
01:15:58,469 --> 01:15:55,479
that what would you consider we've

1748
01:16:00,479 --> 01:15:58,479
talked about a couple of different major

1749
01:16:08,069 --> 01:16:00,489
cases but what would you consider the

1750
01:16:11,339 --> 01:16:08,079
most compelling UFO sighting but most

1751
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:11,349
compelling UFO sighting doesn't have to

1752
01:16:16,830 --> 01:16:13,360
be a mass sighting but I mean what right

1753
01:16:21,149 --> 01:16:16,840
what would you consider like one of it I

1754
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:21,159
can say one of the most profound I mean

1755
01:16:26,370 --> 01:16:24,130
is it Roswell or Rendlesham forest or

1756
01:16:30,029 --> 01:16:26,380
there's all a whole bunch of ones that

1757
01:16:31,799 --> 01:16:30,039
people consider the best and Wow

1758
01:16:34,799 --> 01:16:31,809
all I'm sitting there juggling all of

1759
01:16:37,290 --> 01:16:34,809
those and the one that deserves Lonnie

1760
01:16:39,810 --> 01:16:37,300
Zamora was making up in the New Mexico

1761
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:39,820
State patrolman I don't know it's just

1762
01:16:44,459 --> 01:16:42,159
so mean because in all of these you've

1763
01:16:46,859 --> 01:16:44,469
got physical evidence you've got witness

1764
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:46,869
element and you know evidence eccentric

1765
01:16:51,089 --> 01:16:49,209
fetcher let's just say I think the most

1766
01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:51,099
compelling argument is the cumulative

1767
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:54,670
effect of all of these yeah okay well if

1768
01:16:59,520 --> 01:16:56,530
there was just one or two little

1769
01:17:01,319 --> 01:16:59,530
instances on the record and maybe it

1770
01:17:03,209 --> 01:17:01,329
says maybe it's that and maybe they were

1771
01:17:05,759 --> 01:17:03,219
drunk maybe they were smoking the wrong

1772
01:17:08,430 --> 01:17:05,769
weed or something you know then you

1773
01:17:11,239 --> 01:17:08,440
could always write that off but man when

1774
01:17:14,549 --> 01:17:11,249
you get all of these such good cases

1775
01:17:16,979 --> 01:17:14,559
then I think the cumulative effect is

1776
01:17:18,330 --> 01:17:16,989
proof that we're not alone and that

1777
01:17:21,989 --> 01:17:18,340
something is going on and we're not

1778
01:17:24,779 --> 01:17:21,999
being told about it yeah and I mentioned

1779
01:17:26,549 --> 01:17:24,789
before that you know the if the

1780
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:26,559
government knows about it what part of

1781
01:17:31,709 --> 01:17:29,110
the government would know about it what

1782
01:17:33,989 --> 01:17:31,719
do you think about that yeah well again

1783
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:33,999
I think that we whether they're calling

1784
01:17:38,459 --> 01:17:36,159
it mj-12 I think they're still

1785
01:17:40,890 --> 01:17:38,469
just a group probably within the

1786
01:17:44,659 --> 01:17:40,900
scientific Directorate of the Joint

1787
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:44,669
Chiefs and the National Security Council

1788
01:17:49,859 --> 01:17:47,679
that is in charge this whole thing and

1789
01:17:51,299 --> 01:17:49,869
they they even screamed the president

1790
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:51,309
United States they don't tell him

1791
01:17:56,669 --> 01:17:53,110
anything if they if he doesn't have a

1792
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:56,679
need to know and I think they're the

1793
01:18:00,750 --> 01:17:58,239
ones that's playing footsie with this

1794
01:18:04,979 --> 01:18:00,760
now from what I understand from sources

1795
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:04,989
that there is an internal split going on

1796
01:18:09,419 --> 01:18:07,689
between mj-12 or between this UFO group

1797
01:18:12,449 --> 01:18:09,429
and with some of the younger people

1798
01:18:13,919 --> 01:18:12,459
saying hey okay it's time to just clear

1799
01:18:15,629 --> 01:18:13,929
the air and let's just tell people

1800
01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:15,639
what's going on I don't think we're

1801
01:18:18,959 --> 01:18:17,320
going to have mass panic and I don't

1802
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,969
think all the church is going to close

1803
01:18:23,129 --> 01:18:21,280
down you know let's just go ahead and

1804
01:18:24,929 --> 01:18:23,139
tell the truth but some of the older

1805
01:18:27,089 --> 01:18:24,939
hands are still sticking in there and I

1806
01:18:28,649 --> 01:18:27,099
can kind of understand that because you

1807
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:28,659
know how are they going to look if it

1808
01:18:33,449 --> 01:18:30,400
ever comes out that they were in charge

1809
01:18:36,419 --> 01:18:33,459
and they lied to us seven years you know

1810
01:18:38,669 --> 01:18:36,429
so they nobody wants to fade that heat

1811
01:18:40,949 --> 01:18:38,679
so they they're still saying no no no

1812
01:18:43,409 --> 01:18:40,959
it's not yet time not quite not yet but

1813
01:18:45,029 --> 01:18:43,419
hey but I want to tell you I really

1814
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:45,039
believe is getting close it's getting

1815
01:18:50,189 --> 01:18:47,679
really really close do you think that

1816
01:18:52,409 --> 01:18:50,199
they really know what's going on or do

1817
01:18:54,929 --> 01:18:52,419
you think they just have an idea the

1818
01:18:57,089 --> 01:18:54,939
that's another big problem I'm not sure

1819
01:19:00,120 --> 01:18:57,099
anybody knows precisely what's going on

1820
01:19:02,129 --> 01:19:00,130
even the alien races there are different

1821
01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:02,139
races they have different agendas they

1822
01:19:07,409 --> 01:19:05,380
have different imperatives some of them

1823
01:19:10,770 --> 01:19:07,419
may be a little more kindly disposed

1824
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:10,780
towards humans and others I never won I

1825
01:19:14,939 --> 01:19:12,489
don't particularly worry about some

1826
01:19:16,859 --> 01:19:14,949
alien race is going to come independence

1827
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:16,869
day bomb the world blow up the White

1828
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:18,610
House you know because if that was the

1829
01:19:20,669 --> 01:19:20,050
case they would have done it long before

1830
01:19:23,370 --> 01:19:20,679
now

1831
01:19:26,069 --> 01:19:23,380
right but I do believe that there is a

1832
01:19:28,169 --> 01:19:26,079
contest going on about who's who and

1833
01:19:29,699 --> 01:19:28,179
what's what and what their motives are

1834
01:19:33,779 --> 01:19:29,709
what their agendas are what they're

1835
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:33,789
imperatives are and I think that this is

1836
01:19:38,669 --> 01:19:36,400
why they are not even certain themselves

1837
01:19:41,279 --> 01:19:38,679
who the players are and what the game

1838
01:19:44,219 --> 01:19:41,289
plan is and neither are some of the

1839
01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:44,229
human leaders and so I think it's just

1840
01:19:48,179 --> 01:19:46,510
kind of a mutual agreement that well we

1841
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:48,189
just won't talk about this because

1842
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:49,840
nobody I think

1843
01:19:55,859 --> 01:19:53,199
as a clear-cut playbook as to exactly

1844
01:19:57,629 --> 01:19:55,869
what's going on and why mm-hmm how about

1845
01:20:01,859 --> 01:19:57,639
do you think that different countries

1846
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:01,869
will interact with other countries as

1847
01:20:06,419 --> 01:20:04,480
far older that they already are other

1848
01:20:08,010 --> 01:20:06,429
countries are so far ahead to the United

1849
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:08,020
States it's not even funny

1850
01:20:14,359 --> 01:20:11,710
Russia France Buenos Aires Argentina and

1851
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:14,369
Mexico a lot of these countries they

1852
01:20:19,050 --> 01:20:16,690
actively talk about all this on national

1853
01:20:20,430 --> 01:20:19,060
television okay and that people coming

1854
01:20:22,740 --> 01:20:20,440
on tell them their stories they talk

1855
01:20:24,660 --> 01:20:22,750
about you know their real open and I

1856
01:20:27,209 --> 01:20:24,670
think in fact most of the world now is

1857
01:20:30,899 --> 01:20:27,219
beginning to join together to talk

1858
01:20:33,330 --> 01:20:30,909
openly about the UFO issue except the

1859
01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:33,340
very controlled media of the United

1860
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:36,790
States and I think the reason for that

1861
01:20:41,879 --> 01:20:39,280
is is because it is very much under the

1862
01:20:44,310 --> 01:20:41,889
control of the CIA and the NSA other

1863
01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:44,320
alphabet agencies who for a long time

1864
01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:46,420
have been involved in the UFO issue and

1865
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:48,340
again they don't want to be the ones to

1866
01:20:52,740 --> 01:20:50,530
go oh well we told you there's nothing

1867
01:20:55,740 --> 01:20:52,750
there but well okay actually there is

1868
01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:55,750
and they just don't want to go there so

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01:21:02,820 --> 01:20:57,780
they just keep the lid on the bottle

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01:21:06,450 --> 01:21:02,830
yeah that's uh yeah I know there are

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01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:06,460
some people that are trying to get more

1872
01:21:11,899 --> 01:21:09,190
interaction like Lesley Kahne I know

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01:21:15,780 --> 01:21:11,909
she's you know has tried to initiate

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01:21:20,220 --> 01:21:15,790
some type of interaction with other

1875
01:21:22,859 --> 01:21:20,230
countries well see she and dr. Greer and

1876
01:21:24,510 --> 01:21:22,869
all these others who are trying they're

1877
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:24,520
looking for the right congressional

1878
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:26,050
committee they're looking for the right

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01:21:29,939 --> 01:21:28,030
press conference you know and they're

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01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:29,949
going to blow it wide open you know nice

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01:21:34,050 --> 01:21:31,090
it ain't going to happen

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01:21:36,930 --> 01:21:34,060
ain't going to happen until the people

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01:21:40,350 --> 01:21:36,940
in control of our mass media decide that

1884
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:40,360
it's time to tell the truth none of

1885
01:21:43,620 --> 01:21:41,770
that's going to go anywhere in fact if

1886
01:21:47,339 --> 01:21:43,630
you think when Greer had his Aldous

1887
01:21:49,620 --> 01:21:47,349
whistleblowers there in June of 2001 and

1888
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:49,630
they had a big thing at the National

1889
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:52,449
Press Club they had all the big networks

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01:21:58,290 --> 01:21:55,360
there and they had very credible

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01:22:00,209 --> 01:21:58,300
military veterans coming forward and

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01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:00,219
saying I saw this I know this I worked

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01:22:03,620 --> 01:22:02,590
with this and you would think that would

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01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:03,630
make huge news

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01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:05,880
yet there they all were but yet it never

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01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:08,880
really got reported on in a big way but

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01:22:14,180 --> 01:22:11,370
then finally as a must Rihanna got to be

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01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:14,190
July and August well the internet was

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01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:15,840
kind of alive with this stuff and more

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01:22:18,740 --> 01:22:17,370
and more people were picking up on the

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01:22:20,660 --> 01:22:18,750
idea wow they're really talking about

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01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:20,670
these UFOs are really you know they're

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01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:22,800
really making some headway here and then

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:23,520
what happened

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01:22:30,649 --> 01:22:27,210
9/11 and it all quit yeah it kind of

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01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,659
adjusted the whole world yeah yeah which

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01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:32,159
may have been may have been another

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01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:34,560
factor you don't pull things off like

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01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:37,530
that for just one reason you know you

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01:22:45,140 --> 01:22:40,130
have to wait till there's a whole

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01:22:47,870 --> 01:22:45,150
collection of reasons and excuses to

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01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:47,880
pull some of that magnitude off hmm

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01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:49,770
so that may have been just one of them

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:54,449
yeah yeah now when you you sit in the

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01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:55,770
very beginning of the show you said

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01:23:01,310 --> 01:22:58,290
journalism left you what did you mean by

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01:23:01,939 --> 01:23:01,320
that I mean there are no journals

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anymore

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01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:04,889
there's just corporate advertising

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01:23:11,209 --> 01:23:09,449
placement entities you know oh if you

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01:23:13,220 --> 01:23:11,219
happen to get a little news mixed in

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01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:13,230
with your ads great so much the best for

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01:23:19,490 --> 01:23:16,110
you but it's all the same stuff it's

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01:23:21,169 --> 01:23:19,500
just all ablum eyes in fact when you get

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01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:21,179
to the Northeast you've got the AP and

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01:23:25,879 --> 01:23:24,510
you've got the the major news networks

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01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:25,889
and stuff like that they already have

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01:23:29,870 --> 01:23:27,690
companies now that they're all jointly

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:29,880
involved in who then send out one crew

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01:23:34,910 --> 01:23:33,090
to tape an interview with somebody and

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01:23:37,070 --> 01:23:34,920
then they come out and they all use that

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01:23:38,570 --> 01:23:37,080
same interview that's why you turn to

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01:23:40,250 --> 01:23:38,580
one channel and you see the same guy

1934
01:23:42,169 --> 01:23:40,260
saying the same thing you just said on

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01:23:44,810 --> 01:23:42,179
the other channel all right now they

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01:23:46,939 --> 01:23:44,820
think this is good because it saves them

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01:23:48,890 --> 01:23:46,949
money okay great but it's terrible for

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01:23:52,399 --> 01:23:48,900
News because you're only getting one

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01:23:54,140 --> 01:23:52,409
viewpoint you know and if there was a if

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01:23:55,939 --> 01:23:54,150
we go back to the good old days when

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01:23:57,530 --> 01:23:55,949
you'd have three and four different

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01:23:59,689 --> 01:23:57,540
networks and it's all seen their own

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01:24:01,910 --> 01:23:59,699
represent isn't at all then that all

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01:24:03,979 --> 01:24:01,920
asks the person different questions and

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01:24:05,540 --> 01:24:03,989
then you would kind of open up the

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01:24:08,450 --> 01:24:05,550
dialogue and you might get some actual

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01:24:08,810 --> 01:24:08,460
real answers but said it's not happening

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01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:08,820
anymore

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01:24:13,610 --> 01:24:11,850
in fact I am just absolutely give you an

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01:24:15,770 --> 01:24:13,620
example I'm reading one of the national

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01:24:17,179 --> 01:24:15,780
news magazines the other day and they're

1952
01:24:21,359 --> 01:24:17,189
talking about

1953
01:24:22,409 --> 01:24:21,369
pootin the dictator of russia what what

1954
01:24:25,379 --> 01:24:22,419
wait a minute

1955
01:24:28,079 --> 01:24:25,389
I don't know Putin but no you know he I

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01:24:29,579 --> 01:24:28,089
know he was he was elected and I know

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01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:29,589
that I hear from people who've been to

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01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:31,329
Russia and they say most people like

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01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:34,479
yeah you know I spent a mine Nessa and I

1960
01:24:39,689 --> 01:24:37,570
know people who say Obama is a dictator

1961
01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:39,699
but you don't ever see them saying

1962
01:24:45,239 --> 01:24:43,030
President Obama the dictator of America

1963
01:24:47,549 --> 01:24:45,249
that's just slanted journalism that's

1964
01:24:50,369 --> 01:24:47,559
just slanted now that's propaganda is

1965
01:24:52,049 --> 01:24:50,379
all that is you know you know he's the

1966
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:52,059
bad guy with a good guy well wait a

1967
01:24:56,459 --> 01:24:53,679
minute okay who says so

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01:24:59,219 --> 01:24:56,469
and besides that if you'll actually stop

1969
01:25:01,290 --> 01:24:59,229
and look at with Russians had done done

1970
01:25:02,939 --> 01:25:01,300
not not what everybody says they've done

1971
01:25:04,829 --> 01:25:02,949
and not what everybody's accusing them I

1972
01:25:06,449 --> 01:25:04,839
just go actually look see what they've

1973
01:25:08,339 --> 01:25:06,459
done what had be done well let's see

1974
01:25:09,810 --> 01:25:08,349
they voluntarily pulled their military

1975
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:09,820
out of Eastern Europe after the collapse

1976
01:25:15,419 --> 01:25:13,209
of communism they said hey we'll just go

1977
01:25:17,129 --> 01:25:15,429
back to being friends and we'll pull our

1978
01:25:19,799 --> 01:25:17,139
military out of Eastern Europe if you'll

1979
01:25:22,979 --> 01:25:19,809
guarantee not to expand NATO and we said

1980
01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:22,989
okay we agreed and then we broke it they

1981
01:25:27,569 --> 01:25:24,760
pulled out Eastern Europe and now we're

1982
01:25:29,699 --> 01:25:27,579
ringing Russia with missiles on the

1983
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:29,709
Ukraine Poland all these nations that

1984
01:25:34,259 --> 01:25:31,570
were bringing into NATO through

1985
01:25:35,879 --> 01:25:34,269
expansion so it's he wait a minute

1986
01:25:38,939 --> 01:25:35,889
when you look at who's doing what and

1987
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:38,949
then now they're mad at him for bombing

1988
01:25:43,979 --> 01:25:41,199
in Syria well wait a minute who started

1989
01:25:47,489 --> 01:25:43,989
all that we did because we created the

1990
01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:47,499
Syrian rebels and we armed them and then

1991
01:25:52,049 --> 01:25:49,780
find out they were Isis isn't it they

1992
01:25:55,829 --> 01:25:52,059
crew and crew and group with us still

1993
01:25:57,899 --> 01:25:55,839
arming them okay and then suddenly we

1994
01:25:59,879 --> 01:25:57,909
had to fight them and now we got to go

1995
01:26:01,859 --> 01:25:59,889
fight Isis so then Russia says oh you

1996
01:26:04,049 --> 01:26:01,869
guys want to fight Isis here let us help

1997
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:04,059
you and they went in there with Russian

1998
01:26:07,949 --> 01:26:06,010
airpower in about two weeks they did

1999
01:26:09,689 --> 01:26:07,959
more damage diocese than we've done over

2000
01:26:12,029 --> 01:26:09,699
the past two years because they were our

2001
01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:12,039
guys and we were stuck we couldn't

2002
01:26:16,139 --> 01:26:14,289
really we couldn't really attack Russia

2003
01:26:18,419 --> 01:26:16,149
and blame Russia because we couldn't

2004
01:26:21,540 --> 01:26:18,429
very well say hey you don't bother those

2005
01:26:23,310 --> 01:26:21,550
people those are our people no sir

2006
01:26:25,979 --> 01:26:23,320
so we were kind of caught now that's

2007
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:25,989
what makes everybody mad at Russian all

2008
01:26:29,570 --> 01:26:26,910
they're doing is

2009
01:26:31,670 --> 01:26:29,580
what we were doing it's amazing but

2010
01:26:33,290 --> 01:26:31,680
nobody thinks clearly anymore they just

2011
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:33,300
listen to the media and they just get

2012
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:36,690
led around by the nose yeah and you said

2013
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:39,810
earlier that the media is owned by five

2014
01:26:44,510 --> 01:26:41,490
different corporations or something like

2015
01:26:46,370 --> 01:26:44,520
that right yeah with interlocking boards

2016
01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:46,380
of directors and ownership which means

2017
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,510
there's only a handful of people that

2018
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:50,880
control everything you see in here and

2019
01:26:55,130 --> 01:26:52,530
I'm not just talking about news I'm

2020
01:26:58,370 --> 01:26:55,140
talking about movies magazines TV

2021
01:27:02,600 --> 01:26:58,380
satellite cable books publishing book

2022
01:27:04,820 --> 01:27:02,610
book clubs billboards magazines you name

2023
01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:04,830
it to give these five corporations and

2024
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:06,450
this handful of people that control them

2025
01:27:11,420 --> 01:27:09,090
they they own it all that's why in this

2026
01:27:13,730 --> 01:27:11,430
election cycle you'd have to be a

2027
01:27:16,460 --> 01:27:13,740
not to understand that the media has all

2028
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:16,470
been behind Hillary Clinton the mass

2029
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,110
media the only place you hear any kind

2030
01:27:25,940 --> 01:27:21,840
of dissenting voices on alternative

2031
01:27:28,970 --> 01:27:25,950
media well and they're shutting that

2032
01:27:30,980 --> 01:27:28,980
down yeah I'm trying I'm trying not to

2033
01:27:33,530 --> 01:27:30,990
go political here because it's I know I

2034
01:27:36,740 --> 01:27:33,540
know I'm but anyway I think the world

2035
01:27:38,930 --> 01:27:36,750
does need I got it I got a correct

2036
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:38,940
treasure one thing actually I'm with you

2037
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:41,130
I I don't want you to go political and I

2038
01:27:45,190 --> 01:27:42,930
don't think we need to be talking about

2039
01:27:50,030 --> 01:27:45,200
political things but can we talk about

2040
01:27:52,250 --> 01:27:50,040
criminality I think it's very surely

2041
01:27:55,190 --> 01:27:52,260
talking about krill me creamy and creamy

2042
01:27:57,260 --> 01:27:55,200
out criminality can be considered a

2043
01:27:59,710 --> 01:27:57,270
topic worthy of public discussion I

2044
01:28:06,650 --> 01:27:59,720
think it's going to be tied into

2045
01:28:08,570 --> 01:28:06,660
political yeah well you know supposedly

2046
01:28:10,430 --> 01:28:08,580
we're a nation of law and if you break

2047
01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:10,440
the law and you're a law breaker and

2048
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:13,040
you're supposed to be punished right but

2049
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:16,290
yeah then well I mean you can go back to

2050
01:28:24,110 --> 01:28:18,480
big banking you can see all all the

2051
01:28:26,330 --> 01:28:24,120
different you know in the 2008 crash it

2052
01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:26,340
all it's all about influence and money

2053
01:28:34,820 --> 01:28:31,320
and yeah and exactly there's this more

2054
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:34,830
than one set of rules I agree about that

2055
01:28:40,460 --> 01:28:37,170
and I also think the world could use a

2056
01:28:43,820 --> 01:28:40,470
really good media investigative

2057
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:43,830
journalism like I think that people

2058
01:28:50,180 --> 01:28:45,360
would really get involved in that

2059
01:28:53,810 --> 01:28:50,190
someone that really is not afraid to ask

2060
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:53,820
questions and write both a show we need

2061
01:28:59,090 --> 01:28:55,890
see but you don't see that anymore no

2062
01:29:00,740 --> 01:28:59,100
you don't you know you go back to the

2063
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:00,750
latest of the earlier days and they were

2064
01:29:05,390 --> 01:29:03,360
out there it was a lot of that going on

2065
01:29:07,180 --> 01:29:05,400
and well that's because if you go back

2066
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:07,190
and think of some of the late great

2067
01:29:14,810 --> 01:29:10,890
newscasters like Walter Cronkite and I

2068
01:29:16,580 --> 01:29:14,820
don't know the guys are on kera McNeil

2069
01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:16,590
lair

2070
01:29:19,870 --> 01:29:18,780
you know these guys if you go back you

2071
01:29:22,490 --> 01:29:19,880
find out that they were actually

2072
01:29:24,650 --> 01:29:22,500
educated and trained as journalists

2073
01:29:26,990 --> 01:29:24,660
first and foremost and then they

2074
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:27,000
gravitated Muslims started in newspaper

2075
01:29:32,990 --> 01:29:28,650
and then most and then they gravitated

2076
01:29:35,180 --> 01:29:33,000
into TV and so anyway to begin with they

2077
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:35,190
were good journalists we'll have that

2078
01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:38,250
today we all we have are the talking

2079
01:29:44,510 --> 01:29:42,450
heads that are the so called anchors in

2080
01:29:47,150 --> 01:29:44,520
Britain they call them presenters and

2081
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:47,160
that's a much more correct title they

2082
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:49,170
just read whatever is put in front of

2083
01:29:55,850 --> 01:29:51,330
them and then try to put a happy face on

2084
01:29:57,500 --> 01:29:55,860
you know so it's amazing that we

2085
01:29:58,610 --> 01:29:57,510
actually get any truth about anything

2086
01:30:02,270 --> 01:29:58,620
yeah

2087
01:30:04,130 --> 01:30:02,280
so we're getting toward where we can

2088
01:30:08,780 --> 01:30:04,140
wrap this up but you have anything going

2089
01:30:13,130 --> 01:30:08,790
on well uh next weekend I'm going to be

2090
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:13,140
in Santa Clara for the alien con oh I

2091
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:14,490
never even heard of that

2092
01:30:18,530 --> 01:30:17,010
oh well I hadn't either but they said

2093
01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:18,540
you need to come on out here and I said

2094
01:30:25,370 --> 01:30:22,710
okay so anyway holler at me I'll give

2095
01:30:27,410 --> 01:30:25,380
you a report once I get back okay and

2096
01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:27,420
how about books are you doing any more

2097
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:30,510
writing oh yeah I got a new book in now

2098
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:32,130
it's a little premature to be talking

2099
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:33,510
about it because it's not going to be

2100
01:30:38,900 --> 01:30:37,050
won't be coming out until probably the

2101
01:30:40,940 --> 01:30:38,910
late spring or something like that so

2102
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:40,950
but hey that give us another chance to

2103
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:43,890
talk about more stuff right right but

2104
01:30:48,890 --> 01:30:46,890
it's been a real pleasure Jim I like I

2105
01:30:50,890 --> 01:30:48,900
said I've had people wanting to have you

2106
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:50,900
on the show ever since day one and

2107
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:53,010
you're a fun man to talk to

2108
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:54,330
it's been a lot of fun I really

2109
01:30:59,480 --> 01:30:56,130
appreciator well it's quite all right

2110
01:31:01,910 --> 01:30:59,490
and I appreciate the opportunity to to

2111
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:01,920
be with you Martin and let's do it again

2112
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:04,800
sometime meanwhile meanwhile go to Jim

2113
01:31:10,580 --> 01:31:07,290
Marrs dot-com and you can see all my

2114
01:31:12,950 --> 01:31:10,590
books and all my DVDs and all my stories

2115
01:31:14,930 --> 01:31:12,960
that I posted probably you're not going

2116
01:31:18,610 --> 01:31:14,940
to find in the mainstream media and then

2117
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:18,620
while you add it go to Battlefield Earth

2118
01:31:26,630 --> 01:31:24,410
comm and check out that audio book with

2119
01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:26,640
150,000 sound effects it's really

2120
01:31:30,850 --> 01:31:28,560
something that's something else and just

2121
01:31:34,580 --> 01:31:30,860
remember it's Mars spelled with two R's

2122
01:31:38,180 --> 01:31:34,590
Giff alright thanks so much Jim thank

2123
01:31:40,220 --> 01:31:38,190
you adios adios well that's it for the

2124
01:31:42,530 --> 01:31:40,230
show thanks so much for listening and

2125
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:42,540
thank you for your patience again we'll

2126
01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:45,330
be back next week with Stan Freeman and